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POV-check PLEASE[edit]

This page is exteremely biased; it is propaganda from Falun Gong IMHO.

Just look at all the references:

1) blogs from Wordpress very likely written by Falun Gong disciple qualify as reliable source?

2) Look at all the self-publication - all the pro-Falun Gong/anti-China sources are cited from Falun Gong affaliates:

FLGhrwg.net

ClearHarmony.net

Faluninfo.net

fofg.org - quasi-government organization founded by Congressman Tom Lanto's wife, operated by Embassador Mark Palmer. FoF IRS Form 990, page 4 list of directors, 2001.

Epoch Times - FLG affiliated media CRS Report page CRS-8 list of Falun Gong affiliated media

flgjustice.org

falundafa-florida.org

Come on! --unsigned comment by Bobby fletcher

Sure and if you take a look, you have also inserted sources from the PRC. Which makes the article balanced, wouldn't you agree? --HappyInGeneral (talk) 10:38, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Happy please correct yourself - I have not inserted any sources from the PRC.

None the less, your false response does not address the problem of blogs being non-notable, and the numerous self-publishing sources listed above.

Bobby fletcher (talk) 20:54, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The New York Times article contains more or less the same information as Epoch Times but is somewhat broader in coverage. I don't there there is a point of view problem here; just a difficult matter that is hard to deal with adequately. User:Fred Bauder Talk 15:31, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Notability issue scrutinized[edit]

Wordpress sources are blogs. Heck 1st link is even depricated.

flghrwg.net - only 5 in entire Google news archive:

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22Falun+Gong+Human+Rights+Working+Group%22&btnG=Search+Archives&hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8

none within any recent time: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=falun-gong-human-rights-working-group&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=m&as_mind=20&as_minm=12&as_maxd=19&as_maxm=1

flgjustice.org - none in entire Google news archive:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22Justice+for+Falun+Gong%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn

falundafa-florida.org - none in entire Google news archive:

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tab=wn&q=%22Falun+Dafa+in+Florida%22

Bobby fletcher (talk) 21:07, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Letter found in Halloween set -- unverified[edit]

FYI, the Oregonian article doesn't state that the letter is from the camp--just that the letter mentions the camp by name. Nothing has been proven so far, hence I am removing that section.

Also, who is Benpais? Hopefully he is not a sockpuppet of people who have been topic banned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.222.42.29 (talk) 17:47, 25 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty good source in The New York Times that that particular item did come from this camp. User:Fred Bauder Talk 15:31, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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