Talk:Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia

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Article shows only Polish side of the story.[edit]

The article heavily depends on Polish sources, some of then in Polish language, and doesn't even pretend to be interested in other side of the story - Ukrainian. Tens of thousands of Ukrainian civilians died too from Polish hands, but who cares, right?

Antoni Macierewicz interview[edit]

Antoni Macierewicz, Poland's Defense Minister in „Minęła 20” program stated that massacre was orchestrated by Russians and NKVD and Ukrainians are not to blame. "According to Macierewicz restoration of the Ukrainian state in the interest of Polish. He added that the real enemy were the Russians, who "used" Ukrainian nationalists to organize genocide. This is reminiscent of the Ukrainian narrative, according to which the NKVD is responsible for Volyn."

http://www.kresy.pl/wydarzenia,bezpieczenstwo-i-obrona?zobacz/macierewicz-o-rzezi-wolynskiej-zrodlem-rzezi-wolynskiej-jest-rosja-video

Estimates of casualties, Ukrainians killed by Poles[edit]

  • What about Ukrainians killed by Ukrainians? Xx236 (talk) 13:31, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
The only estimate I've seen was a brief comment by Snyder in one of his books. This area doesn't seem to have been really researched thoroughly.Faustian (talk) 23:02, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
Sluzhba Bezpeky describes several cases of murdering Ukrainians. Xx236 (talk) 07:11, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Yes, but there aren't many estimates of total numbers killed, other than Snyder's brief comment which seems to have been unique and rather questionable (he never repeated it anywhere else, and there is no corroboration from any other sources).Faustian (talk) 18:27, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

BBC News article / Notable examples of bad reporting[edit]

Adam Easton (a guy who hates Poland because he had hoped to become a correspondent in Honolulu instead of Warsaw) wrote in 2013 this manipulative article: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-23267472 It states that UPA killed 40 000 Poles and then the Poles "(...) retaliated and the conflict killed up to 100,000 people in total." It reads as if Ukrainians were the main victims in Volyn massacre. The reason I mention this is that maybe the wikiarticle should include a paragraph on notable examples of bad reporting on the issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.29.230.57 (talkcontribs) 18:39, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

  • This is an anonymous blurb with no source of information, no agency, and no author. Adam Easton is mentioned in it; he is not the author of the blurb. In Wikipedia, we do not acknowledge such crap. Scores of Holocaust deniers operate in the English speaking world spreading lies of no significance whatsoever. If you wish, you can contact BBC News and report factual error with their own online story at http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/. Thanks, Poeticbent talk 19:51, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Background section[edit]

Background section starts with sentence that Galicia and Volhynia were formed as disputed territories... This is based on whose definition?? And how exactly territories are formed in order to exist as "disputed territories"? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 21:22, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Casimir the Great was the first King of Poland who become the Ruthenian Lord and the Galicia with Volhynia did not become Galicia and Volhynia, but rather Ruthenian Voivodeship meaning voivodeship of Rus (undisputedly). Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 21:25, 16 March 2017 (UTC)