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Contradiction!!![edit]

there is a contradiction between the opening paragraph stating that English is the official language and the demographics section saying there is no official language but that English is an official language in parliament. 79.71.106.77 (talk) 17:37, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

It means there is no preferred language for teaching, communication whether it's for professional, legal or just casual. However a designated official language for the parliament serves as a sign of respect for the governing body and authority that it represents (Law and order). It may also be some remnants of old British colony's way. Someone with clearer idea how this rule came to be, please enlighten us. James Wong 16:45, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

There seems to be a contradiction in saying that there is no official language. the most used language being english, it can be said that english is the official language of this country. (111.92.6.131 (talk) 15:37, 25 April 2016 (UTC))

An official language law demands that all formal documents (wills, citations, etc) must be in one of the specified languages. A Parliamentary debate language does not constitute an official language for the entire country. For example, in Western Samoa official languages are Samoan and English. Parliamentary debates must be in Samoan, although Samoan is not always adhered to.203.220.104.163 (talk) 02:05, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

The sources listed for the languages only list English and French, not Tamil or Chinese. Yet these are listed as national languages on this page. This seems a direct contradiction IMO. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.148.122.228 (talk) 05:23, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Transcription of Hindi name?[edit]

The "Etymology" section says the common name of Mauritius in Hindi is मॉरिशस. This name should probably be accompanied by a transliteration in the Latin alphabet, for the benefit of the great majority of readers for whom the Devanagari writing system is meaningless. Based on my very sketchy understanding of this script, I believe this name would be transliterated something like mauriśasa, but I would feel more comfortable if someone who really knows Hindi could confirm and add a proper transliteration. — Richwales (no relation to Jimbo) 05:53, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Google Translate says: Mŏriśasa. I'd say it's good enough, what do you think? Truther2012 (talk) 21:58, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
I don't know Hindi, so I have no basis for an opinion on this. If we can get someone who knows Hindi to comment, that would be best. — Richwales (no relation to Jimbo) 22:21, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

its mauri-sh-ous (maurishous) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.211.56.2 (talk) 09:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Edit request on 6 July 2013[edit]

Mauritius is not the least corrupted country of Africa continent. with the actuall prime minister Navin Chandra Ramgoolam there are manuy corruptions taking place but there are no answers to the population. The police hide proof and everything. you can go to the defimedia.info website to read some news or on this facebook page to see how the popoulation is angry https://www.facebook.com/groups/radio1mauritius/. thankyou Truemauritian (talk) 05:38, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

The article does not say "the least", it says "one of the least", and cites a reasonably reliable reference, whereas your claim does not. Materialscientist (talk) 05:55, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Tourism - Promo[edit]

The entire Tourism section is taken out of the MTPA documents, which are by design WP:Promo. The sub-article header reads so much better. This section should be re-written to reflect.Truther2012 (talk) 19:23, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 23 August 2013[edit]

Small change. The Index of Economic Freedom for 2013 has been out for a while, so this page can reflect that. Also, wouldn't hurt to source it, right? I've also added an additional sentence to give the uninformed some information on what that figure means, but that can be taken out if it's too specific for the larger country page

Please change "according to the 2012 Index of Economic Freedom, Mauritius is ranked eighth worldwide." to "according to the 2013 Index of Economic Freedom, Mauritius is ranked as having the 8th most free economy in the world, with a world-leading score in investment freedom. EconomicsFTW (talk) 04:12, 23 August 2013 (UTC) Done, with minorly adjusted wording. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 21:21, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 January 2014[edit]

The official language of Mauritius is English. So this: Official languages None

should be changed to: Official languages English

and English should be removed from vernacular languages Source: [1]

Not done: The article (and a couple of discussions above) states that since the constitution (or any other law) does not clearly declare any given language as official, there is no official language. Indeed, there are many credible sources (including yours) that claim English as such, but there are also many others that claim the opposite. In my view, in this case, a specific law would be a definitive source. Things get more complicated when we consider that English is not even a common language. --Truther2012 (talk) 14:31, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Football is National Sport[edit]

Recently there were a couple of back and forth changes of the article around the national sport. According to a number of printed sources, including the following: Mauritius: Rodrigues, Réunion by Alexandra Richards p.90, Mauritius - ten years after independence by the Jean Claude Nourault p.270, History of the Muslims in Mauritius by Moomtaz Emrith p.255, the national sport of Mauritius is football. If you have better sources, please share. Also, a football club website does not constitute a reliable source. --Truther2012 (talk) 14:14, 5 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truther2012 (talkcontribs) 21:56, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Edit wars are really not the right way to solve this. Please provide better sources (than three printed sources above) clearly saying that the football is NOT the national sport and this will go away. Btw, not saying that does not prove anything and no, laws and constitutions have nothing to do with the issue either. --Truther2012 (talk) 14:16, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Truther. I value your interest in our country's affairs. There is no mention of football as the national sport in our constitution. Here is the Sports Legislation Act and the 2002 Amendment Acts. These documents are hosted and managed by the Ministry of Youth and Sports. I appreciate you've taken the time to look for printed sources to back your speculations.

The aforementioned football website is the recognized body which oversees Football in Mauritius - which is also mentioned in the above legislation documents. I agree Football is a sport of great interests to the majority of the population, you are however using the term 'national' way too loosely. Football does not belong, does not relate nor does it represent Mauritius. Football is only a national past-time and shall be noted as such. —James Wong 08:55, 18 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheJae (talkcontribs)

A national sport does not have to be declared by constitution or any particular law. For that matter, I don't think any constitution declares any sport as such. The absence of mention of it being a national sport on a given website is hardly a valid reference. At the same time, at least three printed references saying it is. The moment you produce a valid reference (preferably printed) saying it is not, or that some other sport is, this argument is over. --Truther2012 (talk) 15:26, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
It has been over a month since this well-sourced fact was flagged as "dubious". Since there were exactly zero sources provided to oppose something well documented in at least three secondary printed sources, I hereby close this discussion and remove the "dubious" flag. Next time, please, provide sources!--Truther2012 (talk) 13:42, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
Hello Truther, as I mentioned, it's current wording is misleading. Football does not belong, does not relate nor does it represent Mauritius. I welcome you to re-phrase this sentence at your own discretion. Someone with a neutral input on this matter please have your say. James Wong 13:31, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Here is a brief quote from Wikipedia's National sport - A national sport is a sport or game that is considered to be an intrinsic part of the culture of a nation. If you consider Football anywhere remotely 'essential' to the Mauritian's identity then you are hopelessly biased against other forms of sports such as horse racing and the fine athletes our country produces? With the latter representing us at Olympic level? You have to agree that the phrase - Football is the national sport of Mauritius - is misleading. James Wong 13:41, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
The main point here is that we have sources saying it is the national sport and that's that. Whether it represents something bigger or not is irrelevant. I am happy to accept your point, but you really need to show sources explicitly saying that it is not so. On Wikipedia sources is all we have. Anything beyond sources is considered OR and has no place here. You could be right, but without sources backing you up, it means nothing.--Truther2012 (talk) 14:25, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Map[edit]

The current standard for the wikibox maps is to use the SVG Globe; this may or may not (it generally should) include a smaller boxed off area in which a close-up of the islands (either from the same file or a related one) is shown. The wikibox does not need to include a very detailed and/or close-up map as the article (and related articles) include those kinds of maps. -IkonicDeath (talk) 1:54 PM, February 24th, 2014 (PST)

There is no particular standard for maps on wikibox, for big countries the SVG Globe is undeniably the best, but for small countries the infobox should at least show both the position and shape of the country, not just an insignificant small dot only. Indeed if you look at small countries article's you will see that nearly all of them use a close-up map which include a world map locating the close up. Moreover the map which you are using doesn't include islands which Mauritius consider to be part of its territory. It would be good if we could have a globe map with a close-up of all the islands, but given the small space of the infobox and the distance of the different islands are too far, it's impossible to do such a map, unless the real position of these islands is distorted.Kingroyos (talk) 00:06, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
The solution is to simply add a boxed off area in the corner that's a close-up, and for the islands to far away from the main one to be shown in a sub-box, indicating they're part of it, but to far away to be shown accurately; additionally territorial claims of countries are not shown in the wikibox, only the territory legally part of the country is or, in the case of unrecognized or partially recognized states, the territory they have continual control over.
-IkonicDeath (talk) 3:44 PM, March 3rd, 2014 (PST)

Correct spelling[edit]

Names of individuals should be spelled correctly.

"Maurits van Oranje"

PPP per Capita (New figures for 2013)[edit]

Hullo, My skills as far as editing is concerned are quite limited si here's a link to the IMF site for the 2013 figures on PPP per Capita including those on Mauritius, that now stands at $16,056,063

Link: [2]

Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manish2542 (talkcontribs) 22:40, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Demographics[edit]

Hi all, the statistics provided are wrong. See the latest governmental population census [3], the table D5 shows a total population of 1,196,383 while the article shows differently. The correct numbers should be the following:

  • Hindus = 50.15 % - (Total made from table: 599988/1,196,383 * 100)
  • Christians = 30.50% - (Total made from table: 365050/1,196,383 * 100)
  • Muslims = 17.85 % (Total made from table: 213583/1,196,383 * 100)
  • No religion = 0.72% (Total made from table: 8,634/1,196,383 * 100)
  • Buddhists = 0.43 % (Total made from table: 5264/1,196,383 * 100)
  • Bahai and Jewish = 0.2% (See table)
  • Other religions = 0.15% (See table)

I am therefore making the amendments. Pritish.Seeboo

Reply; The calculations about religion percentage was made by me. This is why i precisely indicated the page used when providing this reference [4] (page 68), the figures which you are using (page 67) are for the island of Mauritius only, while the one which i used is for the whole republic which include other islands. Even though i have already clear the misunderstanding, here is how i got these figures;
  • No religion = 0.7092399279764104% (Data from table: 8,772/1,236,817 * 100)
  • Buddhists = 0.4264980187044648 % (Total made from table: 5275/1,236,817 * 100)
  • Christians = 32.70500001212791% - (Total made from table: 404,501/1,236,817 * 100)
  • Hindus = 48.53806181512706% - (Total made from table: 600,327/1,236,817 * 100)
  • Muslims = 17.29827452242328% (Total made from table: 213,948/1,236,817 * 100)
  • Bahai = 0.521499947041479% (Data from table: 645/1,236,817 * 100)
  • Jewish = 0.0034766663136099% (Data from table: 43/1,236,817 * 100)
  • Other religions = 0.1483647136156764% (Data from table: 1,835/1,236,817 * 100)
  • Not stated = 0.1130320815448041% (Data from table: 1,398/1,236,817 * 100). Kingroyos (talk) 19:54, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


Removal of Content[edit]

User:PuffinSoc recently remove Content about the Chagos and Tromelin in the intro, claiming that this is 'my pet issue' and i'm Spamming about it. I just want to make it clear that it is not 'my pet issue' or whatever you want to call it. The Republic of Mauritius considers Chagos and Tromelin as part of its territory. The excision of Chagos before independence of Mauritius is a violation of United Nations' resolutions and the deportation of its indigenous people is a breach of Human rights. Mauritius has continuously and vehemently raised this issue in international forums including the United Nations. Recently Mauritius initiated proceedings against the UK under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) to challenge the legality of the ‘marine protected area’ in Chagos as it considers Chagos as part of its territory. If you think that this is only 'my pet issue' and should not be included in the intro about territory then you are wrong.Kingroyos (talk)

Removal of Bhojpuri Language in infobox[edit]

Bhojpuri is the second most used language at home in Mauritius, see census 2011 page 8 [5], it is even more popular than French and English, so please STOP removing it from the infobox unless a reasonable explanation is given for its removal. Kingroyos (talk) 17:03, 25 January 2015 (UTC)


From what you have posted as reference it shows that Bhojpuri is a language that is losing its popularity. As shown in the citations on page 8 it mentions that "More people now speak Creole and fewer speak Bhojpuri and the Asian languages. Out of every 10 Mauritians, 8 reported that they spoke only “Creole” at home in 2011 as compared to 7 in 2000. Bhojpuri which used to be spoken by 12% of the population in 2000 was spoken by only 5% in 2011. ". Also Bhojpuri may be more popular then french and english but that does not make it vernacular. Vernacular means Native to an area. Since Mauritius was uninhabited before its language depended on the nation that colonized it. Mauritius was owned by the French therefore the french language become vernacular among the educated. Then there was the evolution of Mauritian Creole and finally English was introduced when owned by the British. These are the 3 vernacular languages. Had the Dutch held a stronger possesion of Mauritius Dutch may also have been a vernacular language. A good example of this would be North America. The vernacular languages there are the aboriginal languages such as Cherokee, Cree or Iroquois. However more people speak English in North America. This does not make English Vernacular. English is Official but not Vernacular.The Vernacular language of North America will always be the aboriginal languages and never English. Hope I cleared things up for you and I do apologize for editing without giving reasons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shteeluck (talkcontribs) 22:52, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

So even if Bhojpuri is still the second most used language at home, we should not consider it as a vernacular language just because it is losing popularity? Also you are contradicting yourself when you said English and French are native to Mauritius just because it was colonized by French and British. This section is for languages use by Mauritian in their daily life to communicate with each other (the First language), and i can assure you whether you like it or not, that Bhojpuri is the second most used language after creole, this is further confirmed by the 2011 Census made by Statistics Mauritius. So, please stop removing it from the infobox without finding a consensus on this issue. Kingroyos (talk) 06:00, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

You don't get what I am saying read the part where I talked about North America's vernacular language. I am saying English and French are vernacular because before colonization there was no one living in Mauritius. Therefore it was when colonized that it had vernacular languages. I don't think that Bhojpuri should be added in the vernacular languages at the beginning. However since it is still fairly used we could talk more about it under the languages section of Mauritius — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shteeluck (talkcontribs) 09:53, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

The vernacular means the language spoken as one's mother tongue; not learned or imposed as a second language. In fact in Mauritius, some people have been bought up speaking two First language, that is Creole and Bhojpuri (especially in villages). What happen during the census is that they are given only one choice for their mother tongue, some of them choose Bhojpuri only while others choose Creole only. Some Mauritians also uses only French or only English as their mother tongue, despite they are quite limited, we should still consider it as a vernacular for Mauritius. On the other hand, the most popular Second language used by majority of Mauritians are French and English.Kingroyos (talk) 17:11, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

PLEASE MAKE SURE NOT TO REMOVE ANY INFORMATION CONCERNING LANGUAGES. BHOJPURI IS A LANGUAGE FREQUENTLY USED IN MAURITIUS. IT IS MOSTLY CONCENTRATED IN THE RURAL AREAS WHICH CONSIST OF 179 VILLAGES AROUND THE COUNTRY!!!! PS. —Preceding undated comment added 18:38, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

USE THE OFFICIAL 1972 census, See page 88, See Creole and Bhojpuri — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pritish.Seeboo (talkcontribs) 19:01, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Please refrain from changing the Vernacular languages by removing bhojpuri from it. Please see the link to the CIA country report. See Under section Languages: Creole 86.5%, Bhojpuri 5.3%, French 4.1%, two languages 1.4%, other 2.6% (includes English which is spoken by less than 1% of the population), unspecified 0.1% (2011 est.).CIA Report. English is not the official language but only in parliament. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pritish.Seeboo (talkcontribs) 21:04, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Religious Statistics[edit]

Hi all, please see the link attached to official Hansard papers through Mauritius parliament (national assembly)[6]. The prime minister has answered to a question from MP Mohamed (see page 14-16) where he has stated that the government officially recognizes the 1972 population census. Lets not try to give out biased information by other sources. Please see the link to the 1972 population census For religious breakdown, see page 80-. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pritish.Seeboo (talkcontribs) 18:51, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

I recommend sticking to the CIA world factbook figures, unless some more modern statistics can be found. The religion statistics are not mentioned in the census summary. These were changed recently away from these figures arbitrarily without reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NadCymru (talkcontribs) 15:27, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

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African?[edit]

There are some references to Mauritius as 'African', but the basis for this is not stated. Geographically and geologically it is not part of the African continent or continental shelf, and ethnically it seems to be more Asian than African. If the basis for the description is political, e.g. membership of the Organisation of African Unity, maybe that should be explained.109.150.6.214 (talk) 13:48, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

As I understand it, there are no indigenous inhabitants, only colonials, even though the article does not state that. The French brought African slaves, while the British brought "indentured" (i.e. tricked into working) Indian labor. Slavery was made unconstitutional in 1832 on anywhere on British territory, thus any slaves had would been freed many years before then. The Maldive Ils are the only remote Indian ocean islands that have an indigenous population. (Timor and Madagascar cannot be considered as remote.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.220.104.163 (talk) 02:16, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 March 2017[edit]

Please include a link to 'Arthur Hamilton-Gordon, 1st Baron Stanmore' (there is an existing Wikipedia page for him) to properly identify 'Governor Gordon' in the following:

"The labourers brought from India were not always fairly treated and a German, Adolph von Plevitz, made himself the unofficial protector of these immigrants. He mixed with many of the labourers, and in 1871 helped them to write a petition which was sent to Governor Gordon." 92.251.157.227 (talk) 13:37, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Done. RivertorchFIREWATER 13:51, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks to the author(s) from the Tatar Wikipedia participants[edit]

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Chagos Archipelago section[edit]

The section on the Chagos Archipelago is far too long for this article. Everything other than the first paragraph and maybe a second paragraph summarizing the all other Chagos Archipelago dispute content should be moved to their own respective articles and removed from this article. This article is on the country of Mauritius after all, not the Chagos Archipelago dispute which only forms a a part of that country's biography.--Discott (talk) 09:59, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes, you are right, i will try to clean it up. Regards --Kingroyos (talk) 15:15, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Removal of Content in the Intro[edit]

It has been noted that contents along with its references is being removed persistently by a particular User. I would be grateful if a consensus could be reached for each and every sentence which is remove. Please give clear and valid reasons for EACH sentence and not the intro as a whole. Cheers. --Kingroyos (talk) 15:14, 5 April 2019 (UTC)