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Untitled[edit]

Though I need some help updating the page, and I'm not 100% sure of the meaning of "major flood," I do think this is noteworthy due to the locations affected, Memphis and Nashville, the number of deaths that occurred, and the severity of the event. Cornince (talk) 22:34, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Copy of discussion page from May 2010 Tennessee flooding[edit]

This is a stubbish start for the weather events in Tenn., unfolding right now. KConWiki (talk) 02:12, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Citizen journalism pics and video[edit]

There is some good citizen journalism info published here and here, with good video and links to other sources, some from Tennessee newspapers. Documents that major flooding of the Harpeth River and Cumberland River, among others no doubt, occurred on May 1 and May 2, 2010. N2e (talk) 04:42, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Flickr[edit]

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=nashville+flood might have some free-use images on it. EVula // talk // // 05:35, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Scientific discussion[edit]

Any geologists or meteorologists available to add to this? I already know this is a 100+ year flood, but how rare is it really? Were there human-made influences such as the blocking of flood plains? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Efalk (talkcontribs) 23:08, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

It might have something to do with the shitload of rain that fell in a large area and saturated everything. Just a guess. :) EVula // talk // // 02:23, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

http://hdsc.nws.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/hdsc/buildout.perl?type=pf&units=us&series=pd&statename=TENNESSEE&stateabv=tn&study=orb&season=All&intype=5&plat=36.170&plon=-86.592&liststation=0&slat=lat&slon=lon&mlat=36.170&mlon=-86.592 Shows that the upperbound for a 1000 year rain event for Nashville is 12.5" which this storm exceeded. The chances of any N-year storm happening in any one year is 1/N. So a 100 yr storm would be 1% and a 1000-yr storm would be 0.1%.170.141.177.76 (talk) 18:51, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Merge needed[edit]

I don't care which one stays and which one is merged in, but this article is a dupe of May 2010 Tennessee floods. KConWiki (talk) 02:58, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Strongly agree. "Floods" seems to be the standard term used for these articles. Huntster (t @ c) 03:26, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Need More Detail Here[edit]

This page kind of has a little bit of undue influence on the Forked Deer River...when the major flooding occurred in Middle Tennessee along Mill Creek, the Cumberland and the Harpeth River. --Smashvilletalk 16:14, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

To be honest, such undue weight will probably continue to exist until more news reports are available from smaller communities. For example, my hometown of Waverly had virtually the entire downtown area (east to west, running parallel to Hwy 70) flooded, but because it is smallish, I don't expect to see much mention of that in larger papers. Hopefully something will be published by the local paper. Other folks in the mid-state and beyond should be looking for similar local papers that will describe the flooding in a broader scope. Huntster (t @ c) 19:23, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Photos requested[edit]

The lede states: "In Nashville the Cumberland River crested at 51.86 feet, a level not seen since 1937, which was before the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers flood control measures were in place." This is definitely an area we need additional images. All is One (talk) 17:02, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

I just happened to be in the area on business and took a number of photos, yesterday, mostly in the Music City Area. The Cumberland River really snakes through the whole town, which I did not realize, so that high-water mark could have occurred in a number of locations. I started a "Gallery", though I'm not sure if that was the right move. I have a number of photos in a Flickr set and would be happy to contribute. Let me know how I can help.--Jcantroot (talk) 19:22, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Jcantroot. I'll look through your pics later on, see what might be good to include. I might create a new subcategory on Commons to sort all the flood photos into. If you wanted, you could change the licenses in that Flickr gallery to CC-by-sa or somesuch, and I could pull them directly. Huntster (t @ c) 19:26, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
I just created commons:Category:May 2010 Tennessee floods, using another flood category as a template. Recatagorizing some of the images now. EVula // talk // // 19:57, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Great, thanks for that. (Work is busy tonight, arg.) Huntster (t @ c) 00:31, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Good call, Huntster, I updated my privacy setting to allow distribution without alteration. Thanks for the category help EVula - great move.--Jcantroot (talk) 22:47, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
I work downtown and was able to snap a few of the area yesterday. I'll work on getting some downtown images uploaded. EastOfGingerTrees (talk) 20:03, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

I edited the first part of the article to include western Kentucky as well, as it has affected Land Between the Lakes, the Purchase Region and part of the Pennyrile region of Kentucky. FrankNiddy (talk) 02:13, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Extent of flooding[edit]

A map showing the affected areas would improve the article Androstachys (talk) 06:23, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Rename Needed[edit]

Either this needs to be renamed something like "May 2010 Mid-South flood", or all information unrelated to Tennessee needs to be moved/deleted. Drh3a (talk) 22:06, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

I sort of agree. Perhaps "May 2010 Mid-South storms", to include tornado damage and the like. Obviously, this did not affect just Tennessee, so the question is whether the scope of this article should be expanded, or articles for Kentucky and other affected places started in parallel. Huntster (t @ c) 22:44, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Whateever you want name it, do not add the month as prefix since it is over-precission according to WP:PRECISION. --Kslotte (talk) 14:48, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

The USGS[edit]

... on this flood: High Flows in Tennessee Rivers Estimated --Matthiasb (talk) 12:05, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

"Lack of national media coverage" section[edit]

In the interest of full disclosure - I removed this section as POV. It was almost entirely sourced to a blog post I wrote and another blog that referenced my blog post. Since I had already contributed to this article...it seemed a little COI-ish to me and I didn't feel very comfortable with it up there. --Smashvilletalk 14:55, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

The lack of national media coverage was staggering. A city of 600,000 people stands under six feet of water, and all the media attention in the USA was devoted to a bomb that DIDN'T blow up in Times Square. That's not POV, it's fact. It was days before anyone came here to cover it. Likewise, very little attention was given to the recovery, that was nothing short of miraculous. Four blocks of downtown flooded, and the businesses reopened in a matter of days. The Gaylord Opryland Hotel, which saw 10 feet of standing water throughout, reopened before Christmas. Less than a year later, with the exception of the Opry Mills Mall, it was like the flood never even happened. No recognition of that in the media. Sure, I'm bitter. But that's not POV, that's fact. 75.92.203.80 (talk) 03:35, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

That pic is huge.[edit]

Clearly it needs to be sized down. --Rainbowroad6w (talk) 02:09, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out. Someone had mangled the infobox template's code. Fixed now. Huntster (t @ c) 05:48, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Information needs correcting[edit]

"In Arkansas, over 5 inches (130 mm) fell in the Little Rock area, up to 8 inches (200 mm) in West Memphis and over 10 inches (250 mm) in northeastern Arkansas closer to the Mississippi River."

There is no area in NE Arkansas closer to the Mississippi River as the city of West Memphis is on the Arkansas Bank of the Mississippi River. I live in Marion Arkansas and can see West Memphis from my window. The city's southern and eastern Boundary is the Mississippi River.