Talk:McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle

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Safe combat?[edit]

I had made a minor edit.

"A variety of air-to-air weaponry can be carried by the F-15. An automated weapon system enables the pilot to perform aerial combat effectively and safely, using the head-up display and the avionics and weapons controls located on the engine throttles or control stick. When the pilot changes from one weapon system to another, visual guidance for the required weapon automatically appears on the head-up display."

I removed the "and safely" because I don't think there is any such thing as safe combat. However, I was reverted. I wanted to ask why? Green547 (talk) 00:51, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

That's certainty not what the text means. Don't you think inadvertently releasing a weapon would be unsafe? -Fnlayson (talk) 01:59, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Maybe "...enables the pilot to release/use weapons effectively and safely..." would be worded better. Because "...enables the pilot to perform aerial combat effectively and safely..." might be a bit misleading. It's not a big deal anyway. Green547 (talk) 00:19, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
I'm editing it, since no one has made an objection. Green547 (talk) 00:51, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Современная практика учебного боя. Если равные условия.[edit]

  • 1992. В США против Су-27 ВВС России на условиях ближнего боя. Значительное превосходство было показано за Су-27.[1][2]
  • 1998. ВВС Германии и США над Германией. Миг-29 показал абсолютное превосходство над F-16, и в ближнем бою возможность захватывать цель в 30 раз большем объёме пространства чем F-15.[3] В нескольких учебных боях против пилотов НАТО на F-15 МиГ-29 показал преимущество.[4]
  • 2004. В Британии в ходе встречи британского Eurofighter Typhoon с двумя американскими истребителями F-15E по инициативе американцев имитировалось боевое столкновение. Typhoon быстро смог поразить обе машины.[5][6] Причём в 2015 Индийские Су-30МКИ показал полное превосходство над Британцами.[7][8][9]
  • 2005 Су-30МКИ ВВС Индии показал превосходство над F-16 и F-15 C/D Eagle ВВС США в небе над Индией. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.218.183.165 (talk) 16:02, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

References

You need to repeat your comment in English please as this is English Wikipedia, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 18:12, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

next week212.119.233.106 (talk) 04:05, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

1992. In the United States against the Su-27 Russian Air Force on condition of close combat. Perfection has been shown for the Su-27.

1998. The German Air Force and the US over Germany. MiG-29 showed absolute superiority over the F-16, and melee ability to capture the goal 30 times greater volume of space than the F-15

2004. In Britain, during a meeting of the British Eurofighter Typhoon with two American fighters F-15E at the initiative of Americans simulated combat engagement. Typhoon could quickly hit both cars. And in 2015 the Indian Su-30MKI has shown superiority over the British.

2003 Cope India, 3 wins from 4 clashes over the United States for the su-30. Later wrote USA today that the air force could influence other countries to seize air superiority for the United States.

2004 Su-30K India against F-15C US short- and medium-distance victory over India. The United States recognized that the victory was not. India has declared victory, one win over f-15 was obtained using the MiG-21. Su-30MKI use less effective radar N001 which later Su-30MKI replaced by the more advanced. In the melee, India reached 90% wins. Excellence received and at medium ranges.

2005 Su-30MKI Indian Air Force has shown superiority over the F-16 and F-15 C / D Eagle US Air Force in the skies over India. Together with the F-16 acted AEW E-3 Sentry.

2008. Doctrine Red Flag-2008, which took place in the United States. The participants of the exercise were the United States, India, South Korea and France. F-15 have succumbed-30MKI in terms of the implementation of the destruction of the fighters, and other problems of the war in the air (strikes on ground targets and air defense suppression) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.162.80.2 (talk) 12:08, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

  • 2005, the Su-30MKI Indian Air Force has shown superiority over the F-16 and F-15 C / D Eagle US Air Force in the skies over India. Along with the F-16 operated AWACS E-3 Sentry. http://lenta.ru/articles/2005/11/08/migs/
  • 2008. Teachings Red Flag-2008, which took place in the United States. The participants of the exercise were the United States, India, South Korea and France. F-15 have succumbed-30MKI in terms of the implementation of the destruction of the fighters, and other problems of the war in the air (strikes on ground targets and air defense suppression). http://topwar.ru/20485-su-30mki-odin-iz- luchshih-v-svoem-klasse.html
None of that is really relevant, as simulated combat isn't actual combat. War game "victories" are meaningless. - BilCat (talk) 12:52, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

but what do you tell me if the F15 would be 90% victory but does not defeats?212.119.233.16 (talk) 11:34, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

It may be. you need to use the text =

In the period from 1992 to 2008 for educational combat F-15 almost no has gained victory against Russia (Su-27), India (Su-30), Germany (Mig-29), England (Typhoon).ref></ref (?This text has the a qualitative English?) + In the US Discovery Channel spoke directly about the defeat of the two F15 against the Typhoon

I do not think that this be met by sane an objection

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Syrian "claims" of F-15 kills are given undue credence in article[edit]

In the section under "Introduction and Early Service", when discussing the battles between Israeli F-15s and Syrian fighters, it simply reports the claims made by both sides. This treats the Syrian claims as if they are subjective truths of equal validity to the Israeli claims, even though it has long been accepted that the Israelis lost no F-15s in air to air combat during this period. Wikipedia's other pages on the air battles over Syria support this (see Operation Mole Cricket 19 and List of F-15 losses, particularly the first line).

I'm not an Israeli fanboy--I simply think the the Israeli/Syrian air battles are reported is misleading to less well informed readers, and argue that this section should be re-worded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sebastienroblin (talkcontribs) 15:37, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

SRP?[edit]

The third paragraph of the section titled Focus on Air Superiority begins "In August 1968 a new SRP was prepared." Nowhere is SRP defined, and I cannot find elsewhere a definition that seems to match. Could somebody in-the-know fix this? Sterrettc (talk) 17:22, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Not sure what SRP stands for. The text in the article indicates that is some type of requirements document. I'll tag it so somebody might fix it. -Fnlayson (talk) 19:58, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

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