Talk:Media coverage of the Arab–Israeli conflict

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'Coercion or censorship' subsection of 'Reasons for bias'[edit]

1. Sub section ends: "See Media of Israel and Human rights in Israel#Freedom of speech and the media." Which:

  • Seems bias that it only mention/links to Israel human rights and free speech.
  • Looks out of place. (I.E. should be in 'See also:' section (/beginning of subsection))

2. Section should perhaps include the freedom of press / speech ranking(s) of each country. Yaakovaryeh (talk) 20:21, 22 July 2014 (UTC)


Good piece of Hasbara[edit]

This very Wikipedia articel is biased itself.

Proof: The section about the "Photo of Tuvia Grossman"

This is no "contentious incident", not at all. The New York Times, the Associated Press and other media outlets published a photograph with a wrong caption. Later they corrected it.

Where is the bias? Where is the contentious issue?

I'm a journalist myself - and even I make mistakes in my daily work. But that happens without intention.

Did anybody ever claim that New York Times, Associated Press etc. wrote the caption in the knowledge of its falsehood?

So, where is the bias? Where is the contentious issue?

I'm pretty sure that this picture came over a single news agency (such as the Associated Press). And all other media outlets relied on its accuracy, including the New York Times. And later they all corrected. That is daily business. But only when Israel is shown in a negativ way, then it becomes a "contentious issue". But it's not, it's just a mistake.

And then - does anybody really think that the New York Times is biased against Israel? Rather the other way round, as all American mainstream media.

Of course, I see why this section was included - is just too good a piece of Hasbara (pro-Israel propaganda) too be missed. Because Israel is shown as the victim of biased media - at least on the face of it. And that is enough for good Hasbara.

But again, this incident is not contentious and no proof at all for biased media reporting.

Therefore this wrongful example of a "contentious issue" should be completely erased from this biased Wikipedia article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:51:467D:7601:DC4D:FCE6:B623:813C (talk) 16:15, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

You understand perfectly well. The whole incident was trivial and was magnified for propaganda purposes. Wikipedia shouldn't be part of this process. I'll also note that a large part of the story is sourced to Honest Reporting, which doesn't come within a light-year of satisfying WP:RS. But you shouldn't just grumble; you should read up on the rules for editing and start making changes. Zerotalk 23:41, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
As a news story about one particular incident among many, it was rather minor, but some people thought it revealed a persistent tendency among many in the news media to promote an "Israeli repressor / Palestinian victim" narrative regardless of detailed facts involved in each individual case, and therefore was diagnostic of bias among reporters. Agree with it or disagree with it, that was what was claimed to be involved. AnonMoos (talk) 03:25, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
The fact that it became a cause célèbre is the only reason I'm not arguing for its deletion. Zerotalk 07:27, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Article copyedit and cleanup[edit]

This article requires copyediting. It has too many long quotes instead of summarizing comments from sources. It's description Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, which is a a progressive media criticism organization as a Pro-Palestinian watchdog is inaccurate and misleading. I intend doing a major edit to counter these problems.Cathar66 (talk) 14:40, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

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