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Men's basketball article[edit]

I definitely believe that this would be a positive change to make Wikipedia more homogenous. I see no problem with splitting the section off into a new article. Macraw83 17:15, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Many schools have pages for specific sports teams. It's the same idea as splitting Miami Hurricanes from University of Miami — you can cover the subject in greater detail. However, I don't know enough about UM's basketball team to write enough for an article myself. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 17:52, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry they aren't as big as they are in baseball and football, leave the info there. Jaranda wat's sup 23:21, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey my name is ashley and i am doing a reseach project on miami hurricanes the basketbll teams yaeh its not cool at all

How about the 12 and 0 start in 2007 and the 7 and 0 start this year? There def. needs to be a page just for Hurricanes Basketball. Alexander James Loucks 5:44pm, 30 November 2009

Needs improvement[edit]

I removed the Title IX material. There is no causal connetion between Title IX and the decision to drop programs. University of Miami has many ways to comply with Title IX, including adding more funds to athletics, shifting funds from football to men's crew, or cutting men's crew. It made its own decision to cut the sports, but that concluson was not dictated by Title IX.

There are 15 teams but only three are covered. What about the other twelve teams?

Are the comments about the Seminoles and Gators rivarlies just football or all sports? They are described as "athletic rivals" but then the number of football games is discussed.

What about the contract to play in the contract to play at Dolphin Stadium through 2033?

Various factual assertions need citations. Racepacket (talk)

  • User:PassionoftheDamon tried to delete the Title IX discussion with the edit summary "rmv nonsense". Please discuss your concerns on the talk page here before making such drastic, and POV-pushing, changes. Thanks. Racepacket (talk) 13:33, 16 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Men's Diving[edit]

"Miami" does not field a "diving team," as swimming & diving are considered one sport and scored together in collegiate team competition, like track & field; hence why swimming & diving is not listed among the men's teams at Miami [1] and why the school is not included in the ACC swimming & diving standings [2]. All that survives of the previous men's swimming & diving team is a single men's diver (Reuben Ross) who competes on an individual level in NCAA competition and is listed on the women's swimming & diving roster.[3].-PassionoftheDamon (talk) 18:55, 16 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gender Equality[edit]

Why was the section removed?— dαlus Contribs 01:15, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Given the lack of discussion here by editor favouring the removal of the section, I have restored it for now pending consensus one way or the other. Further removals without discussion will not be looked upon indulgently.  Skomorokh, barbarian  03:39, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Although the section has been restored, I would like to note that the editor who removed the section in the first place removed sourced information, claiming that it was unsourced. This is unacceptable.— dαlus Contribs 04:43, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's an editor conduct issue rather than an article content one, so best belongs on the relevant ANI thread.  Skomorokh, barbarian  05:03, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The claim "Of the $46.8 million in annual athletic expenditures, $23.9 million were spent on men's team, $9.8 million were spent on women's teams, and $13 million can not be allocated based on gender" was most certainly not sourced. Nor was it correct to attribute Donna Shalala's "strong support" for Title IX, expressed in an open letter, to the university as a whole, seeing as how the university in 2000, one year prior to her tenure as president, was explicit that it was forced to cut men's swimming & diving to comply with Title IX. As to the statement regarding graduation rates among male and female athletes, that has nothing to do with "Gender equity" and more properly belongs in a section on graduation rates, along with APR statistics and such. All that might even be besides the point, anyway, because the comparison between graduation rates among the general student population and those of student-athletes, broken down by gender, could be considered to constitute OR. -PassionoftheDamon (talk) 16:17, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The athletic expenditure statistics was from the same source as the participation statistics -- UM data filed with the US Dept of Education. Again, UserPassionoftheDamon is very confused about Title IX and mistakes cause and effect. Title IX requires equal access to both genders in federally funded education programs. It does not 'require' UM to cut men's swimming. (Men's diving was not cut.) UM can comply with Title IX in a number of ways: 1) it could increase funding for women's sports, 2) it could reallocate revenues among men's sports or 3) it could reduce participation in men's sports. UM chose to cut men's swimming as a budgetary matter, not as a Title IX compliance matter. So the language that User:PassionoftheDamon is trying to repeatedly insert is inaccurate and very POV-pushing. The graduation rates for male and female athletes are required to be reported and are not OR. Racepacket (talk) 21:34, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable sources[edit]

We now have five experienced Wikipedians expressing concerns that the University of Miami family of articles rely too heavily on the UM websites as a source. They have asked us to find other, independent sources so that the articles can comply with WP:V. Please assist in this effort. Racepacket (talk) 06:52, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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