Talk:Michael I Rangabe

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Death Date[edit]

Seems an awfully big coincidence that Michael I Rangabe AND his predecessor Staurakios both died on January 11...possibly an error? Clippership (talk) 15:01, 7 January 2008 (UTC)


I have put disputed tag because wikipedia is having 2 different story about 1 event. In article Charlemagne is writen: "Emperor Michael I Rhangabes recognised his status as Emperor under the title of Imperator Romanorum gubernans imperium"

In article Michael I Rangabe is writen :"In 812 Michael I reopened negotiations with the Franks, and recognized Charlemagne as "basileus (emperor) of the Franks"

I now reading book Georg Ostrogorsky : Byzantische Geschichte 324 - 1453 which speak about 3rd version and I think that this version is speaking truth. In story from this book Byzantine envoys in 812 has called Charlemagne emperor (real title basileus) and nothing else. They have not called him Imperator Romanorum gubernans imperium but only basileus. After hearing this words Charlemagne has been thinking that they have accepted him for Imperator Romanorum gubernans imperium but on other side in Byzantium Michael I is speaking that they have refused his demands to accept him for Roman emperor. In this solution nobody is defeated and everybody is happy. Simple this is politics ... I have put disputed tag in both articles.Rjecina 19:11, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

John Worley translated "A Synopsis of Byzantine History" in 2010, published by Cambridge University Press[edit]

much authoritative material for the article Pyrlights (talk) 18:37, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Michael did not abdicate -- he "resigned" when he learned that Leo had proclaimed himself Emperor. Pyrlights (talk) 18:40, 14 March 2012 (UTC)