Talk:Michel Platini

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Adding Image[edit]

How do I add this picture of Michel Platini http://www.wldcup.com/pictures/euro2004/20239.jpg? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xx SoulEdge xX (talkcontribs) 09 February 2006, 05:35 (UTC).

Go to WP:IMAGE or click on "Upload file" on the left column for basic instructions and policies. --ChaChaFut 21:17, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Dubious Information[edit]

Caps and goal figures in the article likely contain European cup/Domestic cup data in addition to Domestic League data (this is very certain based on this user's previous edits containing similar information [1]. Please correct this issue and leave a note here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alfmaster#Footballers.27_European_goals, to warn this person about putting improper information on Wikipedia. --Palffy 21:16, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

This is now been confirmed and sourced. Thanks --ChaChaFut 17:10, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

French article[edit]

I've noticed the French article on Platini looks complete. I know basic French, but not too much. I'll try to translate the information I can into here, but it'd be very good if anyone did a complete translation into English and then we'd merge the two articles. Cheers --Serte * Talk * Contribs 19:53, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Please do. The club career part can really use some expansion. I've noticed you have made quite a few improvements here, which is appreciated. I can understand some French too, so If you'd like, we can team up and divide the task. I think the only concern is to keep everything sourced. Let me know if you want to split the translation. --ChaChaFut 21:03, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
You also worked very well. I've translated that little bit of information about his father. I can understand basic French and only if I have a dictionary besides me which I do. We can try to translate it together, I'd sure work on it, but anyway, I've put up a request for translation here Wikipedia:Translation into English/French#Michel Platini. I hope someone picks it up, because there are a lot of people out there who know French much better than I do. I'd wait to see if someone shows up. Cheers--Serte * Talk * Contribs 21:10, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I've started at User:Serte/Sandbox4. If you want to lend a hand, no problems with me. Cheers--Serte * Talk * Contribs 17:11, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Citation of references and sources[edit]

Is that box at the top of the article really necessary? The article was translated from the French Wikipedia article, which contains a bibliography. I would have thought that was sufficient. Klingklang 12:08, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

If you want this article to reach good/featured status (which I think this deserves) you'll have to cite references. Kingjamie 21:24, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
The French Wikipedia article is the source for the bulk of information in this article, and the bibliography given at the bottom of the English article is the one given in the French article, and having considered this while translating the article, I really don't know where further references are supposed to come from. Klingklang 21:00, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

No mention of Platinis dislike of England?[edit]

I see no mentions of Platini's dislike of England/English football

Platini blasts England

Platini warns Premier League clubs

Michel Platini calls for reforms to English game Xkingoftheworldx (talk) 01:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure that he "dislikes England". One of the articles states "Platini also felt a pang of pain for England, a country he respects but believes needs to reform its football". Cordless Larry (talk) 18:33, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
From the articles that I've read recently, I dont think Platini dislikes England. He just doesn't think it's fair for other clubs in other leagues. He's trying to ...even the playing field because he thinks Enlish clubs are practically cheating. For example, wealthy non-English owners of English clubs can shoulder large debt. They can spend a lot of money on a lot of good players while going into debt. (Manchester United and Chelsea reached the Champions League final last season with more than $1.5 billion in debt between them). Countries like France and Germany have stricter ownership rule. So French and German clubs cannot afford to buy as much good player, which diminishes their chance in the Champions League. Platini thinks that this situation creates an unfair advantage.Elsonlam1 (talk) 04:21, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm removing the last paragraph in the UEFA presidency section about England. It sounds as if it was written by an 11 year-old EPLophile, which it probably was. POV does not belong on wikipedia. ~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.234.182.107 (talk) 17:40, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I think the section under "UEFA Presidency" is rather improper, and doesn't suit the style of Wikipedia. It is more of an opinion piece than an encyclopedia entry. MarkPalavra (talk) 14:02, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

The last paragraph sounds like an opinion piece. I checked the update history. That paragraph was added a few days ago. I've undo it.Elsonlam1 (talk) 03:14, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

I have removed a part of the last sentence in that paragraph for a lack of actual quote of Platini accusing "English football to ruin the game"; it soudnds very subjective if there is a lack of an actual quote... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.217.122.100 (talk) 15:21, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Platini's Anglophobia is apparent to anyone who cares to look objectively. His response to Real Madrid bidding £80m for Christiano Ronaldo: “The big clubs always want the best players and I can understand why Real would love to have him. It is normal for a club to want a player if they have the finances.” His response to Manchester City's similar bid for Kaka in his address to the European Parliament: "“Is it morally acceptable to offer such sums of money for a single player?” A corrupt UEFA run by a bigot is surely no surprise to anyone. Guv2006 (talk) 09:41, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Continued vandalism[edit]

This article is continuosly vandalised after Barcelona-Chelsea match. It would be a good idea to lock it for several weeks. DR2006kl (talk) 07:24, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Controversy[edit]

It wto be written on the controversial decisions by Platini as the UEFA president - namely the seeding of the bigger teams in the World Cup 2010 Qualifiers Play Off, followed by the France-Ireland return leg match in Paris and whatever comes out of that; Barcelona-Chelsea match is also worth mentioning, more as a piece of the puzzle that is the bigger picture being suggested by the large part of the footballing community, naming it some sort of conspiracy.

I am by no means biased, but this info is worthy of an encyclopedia to contain; also, there are plenty of source articles with statements by both sides, players and even french president, amongst others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.121.19.133 (talk) 20:28, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Having his bigotry, Anglophobia and generally strange/questionable words and actions hidden away under the UEFA presidency section is failing to highlight an important aspect of Platini as a person. It is not the job of an encyclopaedia to only highlight the good things about a person, and the fawning writing about his playing career is extremely subjectively written. Guv2006 (talk) 09:54, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Where is the biography?[edit]

In fact, he is an Italian, isn't he? Böri (talk) 12:25, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

This can't be right[edit]

From the article: (Juventus career)

Platini was criticised in some quarters for his lack of restraint in celebrating Juventus' win. In his own defence, Platini maintained that like every other player on the field, he had not been made fully aware of the scale of the disaster. But had he been aware of the disaster he would have celebrated the win even more.


I'm pretty sure that's vandalism. Would have changed it, but thought it better to report it first. 122.163.96.167 (talk) 03:25, 22 April 2010 (UTC)



Since no one's responded, I've taken the liberty of removing the last part of that paragraph. ps- the preceding post about the vandalism was from me. Had forgotten to sign in. Msplzstoplosin (talk) 10:12, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

HEALTH - SA Visit and admission to hospital[edit]

I edited this section slightly - please correct me if I broke any protocol. The attending cardiologist was not mentioned in published sources that I know of, but he is my father so... fairly verifiable but I guess it might be considered 'original research'. Is this is case? - Brett Steingo (talk) 15:16, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Alleged anti-English bias[edit]

It's mostly based on headlines from sensationalist pieces and not in those pieces' actual content
1:Goal.com source on antienglish reputation doesn't contain anything of the like, just a headline.
2: BBC piece (WHICH IS A BLOG ENTRY) doesn't even contain any quotes
3: "and his attacks on the financial structures of English clubs" Unreferenced
4: Platini's quote on Monaco is just part of the French tax policy debate, not on 'big spending'.
Even the parts that are sourced are extremely dubious. This section just doesn't belong in wikipedia and as it's been said above it seems written by a British 11 year old. --Nh3 (talk) 08:50, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

1) The Goal source contains the line "In recent years, Platini has come in for criticism from most sections of the English media for various rulings that have been perceived as being anti-English" which I think is good enough to support the author's point.
2) BBC blogs can only be written be authorised journalists, and the line "Ever since he was elected to the Uefa presidency three years ago, the Frenchman has been growing increasingly anxious about England's domination of European club football." seems support enough.
3) I think this is referring to Platini's voiced disapproval of perceived debt-levels of English clubs, there's a hyperlink in the line of the BBC blog I quoted in 2 which could be used to support this.
4) Yes perhaps the "has most recently drawn criticism" need a citation needed, although the tax debate is related (as good as in response) to Monaco's big spending, I'm sure we could get sources to prove this though it seems like we'd be going off-topic. It's loose but I think comments on the topic are acceptable.
Remember the title is "Alleged anti-English bias", we just need a flavour of the British media's perception of him, not steadfast truths on whether the perception is accurate. Chewwy225 (talk) 19:23, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
I've been asked to look at this, so like it or not, I have done so. The claims of bias by both sides are to low-quality sources like red-tops and blogs from countries alleging the bias. I know that the "alleged" is a get-out clause, but I don't see the point of edit-warring over poorly sourced claims. Get good sources for the bias (either way, or both) and try to agree on a form of words. I will remind all concerned that edit warring can lead to a block. I've removed the contentious section for now, which adds nothing but gossip, and I will take action if anyone replaces either version of the section without regard to what I have said above Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:57, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your help, although the actual bias section I was referring to when requesting it was Alleged anti-Russian bias which has little to no genuine sourcing at all and is poorly worded. The content of the Alleged anti-English bias section is backed by well-established media outlets, and whether red-top or not makes little difference as these are used as the majority of sources on Wikipedia articles on British sport as they are simply the outlets that report most on sport, and are permissible under Wikipedia guidelines even if coming from a bias or slanted angle - there are no rules against using these outlets as sources. Whether the "alleged" is a get-out clause seems neither here nor there, Wikipedia articles regularly include bias viewpoints if openly presented as bias and notable enough to warrant inclusion in the article, and given the overwhelming number of pieces by British press on this subject this seems to apply in this instance.
Thoughts? Chewwy225 (talk) 15:15, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
If no objections I'll re-add the section in a day or so? Chewwy225 (talk) 19:43, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
What an admin resolves doesn't expire in "a day or two" . Matter has been ditched permanently. JamesPowells (talk) 07:17, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

representing multiple international sides[edit]

This one and only cap for the Kuwaitis put Platini in the history books as a footballer to represent more than one country at international level

I mean, technically it's accurate that he is "a footballer" who did "represent more than one country at international level". While it's not especially common today, historically many players represented more than one nation. See http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/double-caps.html - while many of them are cases like (e.g.) players from the USSR or Yugoslavia later representing one of the countries resulting from the break-up, there are still plenty of others where the change isn't a result of such political developments. I don't think this is the most neutral phrasing in the article, talking about it "putting him in the history books" makes the feat out to be far more remarkable than it really is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.169.37.118 (talk) 12:53, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 October 2014[edit]

Bibliography : please add this new very important book Michel Platini, Parlons Football, Entretiens avec Gérard Ernault, 2014


http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/oct/16/uefa-president-michel-platini-introduction-sin-bin)

Jharscoet (talk) 17:04, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

A Bibliography is for resources used to create the Wikipedia article. However, the book you have stated was not used for this article. Also I cannot see any mention of that book in the Guardian link you have provided. Stickee (talk) 09:21, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 April 2015[edit]

Request relates to this line from the 'Kuwait' section of the article:

This one and only cap for the Kuwaitis put Platini in the history books as a footballer to represent more than one country at international level

Phrasing this with reference to 'put[ting] Platini in the history books' makes it sound far more remarkable than it is. While it's uncommon (especially in recent years due to tightened regulations regarding a player's ability to play for a given nation), historically there are many examples of players who've appeared for more than one international side. http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/double-caps.html contains a list - it's dominated by examples such as Soviet and Yugoslavian players who later appeared for post-break-up nations, or players who appeared for both a unified Germany and an East/West German international side, which is self-evidently a different thing than Platini's appearance for Kuwait. But there's also no shortage of examples such as Puskas (Hungary/Spain), Di Stefano (Argentina/Spain), Jermaine Jones (Germany/USA), Thiago Motta (Brazil/Italy), and many others, which are more comparable to Platini's situation (in fact much more remarkable since those players did it as natural part of their careers, not merely as a one-off publicity stunt in a meaningless non-competitive fixture such as the one Platini appeared for Kuwait in).

It could be replaced with a less sensationalist phrasing such as

In doing so, Platini completed the rare feat of appearing for more than one country at full international level.

but I'd more strongly suggest simply removing the line from the article entirely, as I think the rest of the paragraph is clear enough without having to make an explicit statement that this is a rare feat.

I'd also question whether or not it should even count, officially, as he doesn't seem to have been eligible to play for Kuwait but did so on 'invitation' from the Emir. Was this even an official FIFA sanctioned match? I believe that's usually the guideline used for counting a player's international appearances.

131.169.37.118 (talk) 13:30, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Pishcal 16:36, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2015[edit]

62.205.79.1 (talk) 15:25, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

no request Cannolis (talk) 16:29, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2015[edit]

Yes check.svg Done Stickee (talk) 00:13, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Add navbox of President of UEFA[edit]

  • Done. 97198 (talk) 10:16, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

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