Talk:Minesweeper (video game)
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| On 24 August 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Minesweeper (video games). The result of the discussion was not moved. |
| Microsoft Minesweeper was nominated for merging with this article in the past. The result of the discussion was to not merge. |
Sadie Kaye Deadname
[edit]The person formerly known as Richard Kaye has since transitioned and is now called Sadie Kaye, see here. Does that webpage counts as a reliable source or else what sources should I look for, since she's not published anything since the change of name? 86.26.160.231 (talk) 23:12, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- Seeing as Kaye is a private individual who is not particularly known under either name, this should be fine, assuming we are certain this is the same person. Having updated the name is appropriate and I just went through it :) ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 07:44, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- I am not convinced that Sadie Kaye is the same person as Richard Kaye. I know Richard Kaye as a mathematical logician, particularly well-known in the mathematical community for his textbook of early 1990s on models of Peano arithmetic.
- Besides, just today I checked his official homepage and there was no mention of "Sadie". The homepage also refers to Kaye's page on Minesweeper.
- In my view, the person who proved the NP-completeness of Minesweeper should be called "Richard Kaye" in the Wikipedia entry. IF there is good evidence that the name has been changed, that could be mentioned, with reference, in brackets. Blogician (talk) 09:47, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure a list of people here is sufficient proof of anything. I can't even find "Kaye" on the link you provided Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:22, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- For anyone doubting this (since the link was dead) - I just added an archived version of the citation in the article (the same link provided by the original poster here). This page clearly links Sadie Kaye to the minesweeper paper, as well as all other papers previously associated with Richard Kaye. It also mentions that she studied Peano arithmetic, as mentioned by @Blogician, and that she got a PhD from the Victoria University of Manchester in 1987 - the same listed for Richard Kaye here (note the name of the dissertation there, also listed on Sadie's page). Definitely the same person. She's changed careers since then, which explains the lack of recent papers under either name. Neonshuffle (talk) 08:16, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Proposed merge of Microsoft Minesweeper into Minesweeper (video game)
[edit]The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
This seems like a duplicate article with a heavy WP:OVERLAP. I would recommend it be redirected to or combined with the Good Article. Alternatively, maybe this page could be moved to Minesweeper (genre) and the Microsoft Minesweeper article moved to Minesweeper (video game), but I don't think that is particularly necessary. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:52, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- Support: They're literally the same game. Microsoft Minesweeper should be a section in the Minesweeper article. Evrstz (talk) 22:55, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- No, they're not the same. Minesweeper is a video game genre, and Microsoft Minesweeper is specifically one of the games in this genre. There're many other minesweeper games. SimonWan00 (talk) 09:11, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose - Microsoft Minesweeper should be moved to Minesweeper (Windows) and the actual Microsoft Minesweeper (the 2012 version) should instead have its own article, not being conflated with its predecessors. MSMST1543 (talk) 08:00, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose – We're gonna need separate articles on Microsoft's iconic Minesweeper releases, and minesweeper as a broader genre. I don't know which naming scheme is optimal, but I don't think it's healthy for a gameplay style to be completely dominated by a single company's releases. It's like merging kart racing game into Mario Kart. I don't have strong opinions on how to format the names, though. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 08:51, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose the Microsoft version of Minesweeper is its own game, to merge the contents together would be confusing. Not to mention, the article already has a link to Microsoft Minesweeper so merge the contents together would be redundant. Rager7 (talk) 23:26, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Support I believe these should be merged with Microsoft Minesweeper discussed under the greater Minesweeper genre. RonJonThe8th (talk) 21:49, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, they aren't the same topic.
- Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 22:09, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. There's a distinction between the game (genre) as a whole and one particular version of it (albeit the most famous). oknazevad (talk) 14:05, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment I'm of two minds on all of this. For one, is there a justification to have an article about the concept of Minesweeper? It feels like Minesweeper (video game) should be retooled into a section in Microsoft Minesweeper. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 15:04, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Support though WP:COMMONNAME should dictate which of the two should be merged into the other. Iljhgtn (talk) 22:40, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
Expand from Mined-Out
[edit]The history section can be expanded upon from Mined-Out § Legacy, which provides an in-depth look at the earliest Minesweeper games. 深鸣 (talk) 15:29, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
Translation into Chinese Wikipedia
[edit]The version 25 October 2022, 15:09 was translated into the Chinese Wikipedia. 深鸣 (talk) 15:33, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion
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Inclusion of early Minesweeper game Relentless Logic
[edit]As far as I am aware, Relentless Logic is one of the 'earliest' Minesweeper games to be created. It dates back to as far back as 1985, and I believe the inclusion for it in Minesweeper (video game) § History would be appropriate (could be included in the lead section as well). Relentless Logic could also have an article made on it; the game is rarely documented anywhere except for the minor mention in Mined-Out § Legacy. An archive of this game: https://archive.org/details/msdos_Relentless_Logic_1985 Xylapy // talk! // 23:15, 15 December 2025 (UTC)