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Coastline[edit]

Hey guys, long time since I've been back here. :)

Anyways, when this article was getting promoted to FA one of the sentences we had to remove was that "Minnesota had more coastline than California, Florida and Hawaii combined" due to lack of citations.

Well an enterprising individual did the calculations, and it's true if you include rivers. http://www.chrisfinke.com/2013/12/30/does-minnesota-really-have-more-shoreline-than-california/

Shall we include it again? -Ravedave (talk) 21:46, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi, RaveDave. Good to see you again! The problem with including it might have to do with the coastline paradox: it's a quantity which defies precise definition. Jonathunder (talk) 02:51, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Ravedave?? Not the Ravedave? Good to see you back! Now (for a while at least) forget about lizards or frogs or whatever else you've been working on, and update this article. It says right near the top of this page that you can help with it! Regards, Kablammo (talk) 14:57, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

State motto[edit]

The translation of the state motto is wrong. Directly translated it does mean "the star of the north" but you never directly translate. If you translate properly it would be "the North Star". Feel free to fix.

50.197.119.50 (talk) 17:12, 17 January 2014 (UTC)Fraser

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I need help[edit]

Well, I am from Spain and I am working on Minnesota's spanish article. I am writing about the sports and I am having a lot of problems trying to find information about women's sports. I wrote the name of the men's teams of the most popular leagues of USA (NHL, MLB, NBA, NFL). I wrote the name of Minnesota Lynx of the WNBA, but I can't find information over the other women's leagues, so I can't write about the Minnesota's teams of football, hockey and baseball. I hope you have understand my "english". Please, if you can, tell me the name of women's football, hockey and baseball leagues and Minnesota's teams in these leagues (I just need the first league). Please use a simple english, after all this isn't my first language. Thank you!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Plata1996 (talkcontribs) 23:20, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Plata1996, there is a listing of professional sports teams at Sports in Minnesota. Good luck with your article. Kablammo (talk) 14:04, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much! --Plata1996 (talk) 19:30, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Peacock terms and promotional tone[edit]

I'm seeing phrases like "internationally known arts community" and "Minnesota is known for a politically active citizenry," and overall the article seems to feature only very positive information. Just wondering what other editors think.--Prisencolinensinainciusol (talk) 05:34, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Ambiguity and grammatical error[edit]

"Minnesota contains some of the oldest rocks found on earth, gneisses some 3.6 billion years old, or 80% as old as the planet." 80% of what is as old as the planet? And what does "gneisses some 3.6 billion years old" even mean?97.116.162.146 (talk) 06:01, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Come on! No Wikipedia editor wants to resolve this problem????67.4.218.221 (talk) 06:06, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Gneisses found in Minnesota are about 3.6 billion years old; the planet Earth is about 4.5 billion years old. Kablammo (talk) 13:49, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

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Nauseous Puffery[edit]

The following paragraph is a little over the top:

Minnesota is known for its progressive political orientation and its high rate of civic participation and voter turnout. Until European settlement, Minnesota was inhabited by the Dakota and Ojibwe/Anishinaabe. The large majority of the original European settlers emigrated from Scandinavia and Germany, and the state remains a center of Scandinavian American and German American culture. In recent decades, immigration from Asia, the Horn of Africa, and Latin America has broadened its historic demographic and cultural composition. Minnesota's standard of living index is among the highest in the United States, and the state is also among the best-educated and wealthiest in the nation.[7]

Minnesotans love this kind of narcissistic blather -- just talk to one -- but it's more appropriate for a politician's campaign speech than it is a Wikipedia entry. In particular, the phrase "Minnesota's standard of living index is among the highest in the United States" is unsupported by footnote 7 and is too subjective to substantiate.

Gruffbear (talk) 02:27, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Why is this unencyclopedic just because it might be considered "bragging?" Most of what is included in the paragraph you cite is both objective and easily verifiable (for instance the high voter turnout and immigration patterns). While I agree with you that the meaning of the term "standard of living index" is not immediately clear, a search on Google for "quality of life by state" shows a number of rankings at which Minnesota is at or near the top. The mere fact that these studies are subjective in choosing what factors go into determining "quality of life" does not make them difficult to substantiate, so long as the underlying measurements (like murder rates, employment rates, education levels, average disposable incomes) are objective. Jrt989 (talk) 14:50, 8 July 2016 (UTC)