Talk:Model minority

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Large reworking of article[edit]

I attempted to streamline the article and, among a number of other changes, removed the following sentences:

Already have enough examples, and barring Chinese immigration doesn't decrease chances Asian Americans would be successful.

unneccessary detail for this article; should be in an article on discrimination against Asian Americans

  • "of which 92% (or over 1.1 billion) are of the dominant Han ethnic group"

Unless the article needs to specify a difference in performance between Hans and non Hans, "Chinese" encompasses both.

  • "Furthermore, during the course of almost all of China's history, until the Communist regime began liberalising its economic policies in 1978, over 90% of China's people lived in horribly impoverished conditions."

Already encompassed in saying that they were poor - beyond that this detail is not relevant.

How do the changes look? Best, --Nectarflowed 22:28, 20 March 2005 (UTC)

re: --Nectarflowed 22:28, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC[edit]

You stated that numerical restrictions on Asian immigration to America were irrelevent; I disagree vigorously. Consider this: where are new immigrants likely to find adapting to a new country the most easy? Answer: within a group of their national/ethnic peers. So, Asian-American immigrants would have a far easier time after immigration if larger numbers of their group were present in established communities.

I believe you're referring to my mention above of my removal of the sentence:
The dynamic you describe sounds possible. I think though that this topic is currently dealt with adequately in the section Model_minority#History_of_discrimination, and going into too detailed history there is beyond what is needed for this article's purpose. --Nectarflowed (talk) 08:22, 22 April 2005 (UTC)

Chinese Exclusion Act[edit]

I don't get what the 100 Chinese per year is taken from. Actually, I happen to have a copy of the 2001 version of the US Immigration and Naturalization service in front of me. Unfortunately, it'll only give me the numbers for decades. However, it should like like this

1871-80: 123,201 1881-90: 61,711 1891-1900: 14,799 1901-10: 20,605 1911-20: 21,278 1921-30: 29,907 1931-40: 4,928 1941-50: 16,709 1951-60: 9,657 1961-70: 34,764 1971-80: 124,326

(Taiwan included from 1957)

Even in the decade with the smallest number of immigrants, it's almost 500 people a year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tangsiuje (talkcontribs) 04:35, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

More Information for different races[edit]

There are lots of information for specific races, but if they had more information about different races, I think that would be better. Also, if they would have links or articles on real stories about model minority from different people. Maybe have a counterargument about model minority on the page. It would help when someone wanted to grab more information about the subject for an essay and then want a counterargument.[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janeeejang (talkcontribs) 23:35, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

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Microaggression[edit]

Model Minority is another form of stereotype towards different ethnic groups. But it's interesting that you don't hear much of how model minority can also be seen as racial microaggression if you think in terms of the eight themes of microaggression. Scholars and activism can discuss how it's denial one's racial reality when people argue about the education and socioeconomic disadvantages that Asian American faces. Another issue is when Asian Americans are being stereotyped by their "ascription of intelligence" that intertwines to how Whites assume that all Asian Americans are "alike". Whites assume that all Asian Americans look like that they all are intelligence and bright that it creates the ideal image of them having a higher degree in socioeconomic.Thus, racial microaggression is very subtle, but can be direct and indirect in how people use it in a sends a "put down" messages. <ref>[1] Kliu38 (talk) 07:18, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Evaluation of this article[edit]

This article gives detailed background and a wonderful understanding of why it is that East Asians and South Asians (specifically Pakistani and Indians) are considered the model minority. It also gives insight that the "model minority" stereotype is not limited to the United States and it occurs in European countries as well.

The information offered in the article is neutral as it is mostly historical and connections made in history. It shows a bit of bias in wanting to prove that being a model minority is a myth; it is a myth because contributors of this article made sure to exemplify the stereotypes, adversities, and injustice that Asian Americans have also faced in the U.S., but others may have disregarded.

The article offers statistics/percentages of Asian Americans who obtain Bachelors degrees. The sources and references given for the article are reliable as many of them are through universities or scholarly journals.

Mchang38 (talk) 16:50, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

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Possible additions?[edit]

Hello all,

I would like to add these sources.

Kim, R. Y. (2002). Ethnic differences in academic achievement between Vietnamese and Cambodian children: Cultural and structural explanations. The Sociological Quarterly, 43(2), 213-235.

Ngo, B., & Lee, S. J. (2007). Complicating the image of model minority success: A review of Southeast Asian American education. Review of educational research, 77(4), 415-453.

Tran, N., & Birman, D. (2010). Questioning the model minority: Studies of Asian American academic performance. Asian American Journal of Psychology, 1(2), 106.

Wong, P., Lai, C. F., Nagasawa, R., & Lin, T. (1998). Asian Americans as a model minority: Self-perceptions and perceptions by other racial groups. Sociological perspectives, 41(1), 95-118.

Mnlim (talk) 22:50, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

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