Talk:Mohammed Abdullah Al Hamiri
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disputed picture
[edit]Replaced transcluded image with inline image - {{npov}} tag as per dispute on Template talk:Combatant Status Review Tribunal trailer image and caption. Geo Swan 05:59, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
revert -- see talk
[edit]I reverted a recent edit as per this discussion. Geo Swan (talk) 06:08, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
explanation
[edit]I reverted the poorly explained excision of the section based on the publication of this captive's medical records. The contributor who excised this section from this article excised similar sections from half a dozen other articles -- again without making an attempt to discuss their concern.
I responded to one of those excisions here. Geo Swan (talk) 07:33, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
- It is simply wrong that i would not engage in discussions. More information about that here: User_talk:Iqinn#question
- The wording of my edit summary might not be the best but it was sufficient for people who are familiar with the cited policies WP:NPF, WP:GRAPEVINE. And i thought you were. I apologies when you think there were words in the edit summary that offended you. That was never my intention. Iqinn (talk) 08:00, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Medical records
[edit]Additional explanation to my edit summary and the related policies.
"not relevant for his notability" The release of medical records of Guantanamo detainees might be interesting in the broader topic of Guantanamo, as for example some of the detainees claim they have suffered health damages. But this is the biography of Mohammed Abdullah Al Hamiri and there are no secondary sources in the article that discuss his personal health to a level where it could become relevant. The inclusion of this material is not relevant to Mohammed Abdullah Al Hamiri's notability and can not be included under WP:NPF.
"insufficient sourced" from WP:NPF
"Biographies of people who, while notable enough for an entry, are not generally well known. In such cases, exercise restraint and include only material relevant to their notability, while omitting information that is irrelevant to the subject's notability. Material from third-party primary sources should not be used unless it has first been published by a reliable secondary source."
The section is based on a primary source and therefore it can not be included.
"private information that could be possible harmful" Medical information are very personal information. All countries around the world i know have laws against the publishing of medical records. Publishing of medical information is restricted unless the individual agrees to it. Why? I can easily imagine a lot of situations where this could be harmful to an individual. An insurance company could reject to sell him a policy or potential employer could reject to give him a job...
Only one of these three reasons would justify an removal. This is not even a border-line case here. The material needs to be removed as soon as possible in accordance with our policies. Iqinn (talk) 08:00, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
rough work
[edit]These links to the page numbers within the OARDEC documents may be useful to other contributors. Geo Swan (talk) 22:41, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
CSRT allegations | 80 |
CSRT transcript | 21-23 |
ARB 1 allegations | 12-13 |
ARB 2 allegations | 99-100 |
ARB 3 allegations | 44-45 |
- Another useful source is the The Guantanamo Docket it is an interactive database provided and updated by the New York Times. The database is searchable and has the Pentagon documents (CSRT and ARB) included. Additional documents and reliable New York Times research regarding the detainees at Guantanamo are also provided. This is the link to the documents and research regarding Mohammed Abdullah al Hamiri. IQinn (talk) 14:06, 7 January 2010 (UTC)