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Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2019[edit]

LOGKING 2 (talk) 09:50, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Instead of firing 3 bullets writh firing three bullets

I'm not exactly sure which you're asking to be in the article, but the article as written says "firing three bullets", which is correct. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 14:10, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Gandhi in South Africa[edit]

Gandhi spent close to twenty-five years in South Africa.At the beginning of his stay he served as lawyer/Barrister.How did he support himself and his family in later years of his stay in that country? Thanks.Jonathansammy (talk) 16:17, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello @Jonathansammy:: He was a lawyer throughout his 21 years in SA, and a well-paid one at that. See:[1]

Gandhi's success in his legal career deserves far more notice, but it seems writers prefer not to dwell on it because it does not conform to the stereotype of the renouncer. Around 1905-6 Gandhi's legal practice in Johannesburg fetched him an annual income of £ 5000, a considerable sum at the time. It is therefore most likely that Gandhi's lack of interest in money in later years was less a 'natural' cast of mind than a deliberate choice. We may surmise that Gandhi's success in his professional career was not without impact upon the substantial development of his personality, endowing him with a self-confidence he completely lacked earlier. The financial aspect of his career deserves attention at least for what it reveals about Gandhi's capacities. Sometimes it is argued that Gandhi, being about the only Indian lawyer in South Africa, deserves no great credit for his success. But his success was not evident at the outset. When he arrived in South Africa, Gandhi had a purely bookish knowledge of the law and was ignorant of commercial law, mastery of which was indispensable in a milieu of merchants. After a few years he acquired the reputation of being a competent as well as honest lawyer. He obtained regular custom from merchants who, before his arrival, had used the services of European lawyers."

Fowler&fowler«Talk» 18:15, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Fowler&fowler. As you said, not much is written about his professional career as a lawyer. Perhaps you can add this information to the article. Best regards.Jonathansammy (talk) 18:29, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Mahatama did not stay at the train station but he had blood on him so A man called Amod Bayat (from my family) made him stay for a few days at Amod's shop (Don't belive me) I have a letter saying for proof.


So get that letter published in a publication that has a reputation for fact checking and accuracy, and we can use it in the article. Otherwise it's just hearsay. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:54, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

It's in South Africa but I can get one of my family members can send it to me then I will send it to my phone and publish it on this page.

Read the comment before yours: "... get that letter published ..." Wikipedia specifically does not prioritize original research. If you scan the letter from a relative, that's original research. You need something that isn't your (or your relative's) personal experience. This is an encyclopedia. See WP:NOR --IAmNitpicking (talk) 13:21, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Missing word[edit]

In the section that says, “Time Magazine named The 14th Dalai Lama, Lech Wałęsa, Martin Luther King, Cesar Chavez, Aung San Suu Kyi, Benigno Aquino, Jr., Desmond Tutu, and Nelson Mandela as Children of Gandhi...” it should have Jr on the end of Martin Luther King. Brownhorse0 (talk) 17:04, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Gujarati pronunciation and spelling[edit]

Gandhi is from Gujarat but the pronunciations /ˈɡɑːndi, ˈɡændi/... [ˈmoːɦəndaːs ˈkərəmtʃənd ˈɡaːndʱi] are in English and Hindustani only - not in Gujarati. Is there a reason for this? Based on the article, he seems to have spoken Gujarati. Also, what about including the native spelling મોહનદાસ કરમચંદ ગાંધી in the article. Most articles about Chinese subjects have the names in simplified and traditional Chinese characters and various romanizations and IPA transcriptions for the different varieties of Chinese. It's an odd omission to not include any Indian spelling of his name at all. Jackpaulryan (talk) 04:35, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Please read WP:INDICSCRIPTS and by extension its implications for pronunciation. Ideally the Hindi should be removed as well. It has been retained as a courtesy to such among Wikipedia's readers as might be curious. The Gujarati, in addition, will top load the lead with pronunciation excessive pronunciation, which is generally confusing to new readers. Besides, there is almost no chance that anyone living today will reliably recreate the Gujarati pronunciation of Gandhi's childhood. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 10:16, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, Fowler&fowler! I see that it says the native scripts should not be included, but it does say the pronunciation (in the International Phonetic Alphabet) should be included.
I totally sympathize with the concern that, even if Gujarati pronunciation was added, it would likely be inaccurate to the exact variety of Gujarati spoken by Gandhi. Although I'm sure some linguist somewhere could give an historically/regionally/class accurate Gujarati IPA transcription I understand that would be hard to obtain. For now, we could specify "Modern (Porbandar?) Gujarati" and "Modern Hindustani" to give some acknowledgment to the anachronistic pronunciations.
For concerns about spacing, Hindustani or Gujarati pronunciation could be relegated to a superscript note but I don't know if that'd be necessary.
Jackpaulryan (talk) 16:33, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
Why should Modern Gujarati (spoken of all places in Porbandar, where Gandhi spent almost no time) or for that matter the Hindi spoken in the Republic of India be favored? Gandhi was a cosmopolitan world figure, his ideology spread far beyond his native Gujarat. He himself was of the view that simple, everyday, bazaar Hindustani (Urdu) should be the national language of India, and took pains to learn the Perso-Arabic script in his mid-life. Why then should Gujarati be favored for such a figure. I have therefore removed the Hindi IPA and the audio file, as it was added by someone who was merely trying to be helpful, but innocent of the airing of the various linguistic sub-nationalisms that India-related pages have been subject to. (I am not saying that you are promoting that, but it is almost certain that if Gujarati is admitted, other languages will too) WP:INDICSCRIPTS was a response to that. I am pinging @RegentsPark: who will have something more reliable to say. Best regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 18:33, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
Because Gandhi is a pan-Indian figure, equally important and recognizable in Gujarat or Tamil Nadu, using specific indic scripts or IPA transcriptions should be avoided. --regentspark (comment) 18:44, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 August 2019[edit]

Gandhinagar (the capital of the state of Gujarat, Gandhi's birthplace) need to rewrite above sentence as it is misunderstood Ganndhinagar as birthplace of Gandhi dbpatel 14:45, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —KuyaBriBriTalk 17:48, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

etymology[edit]

etymology of the name gandhi should be included in this article . the root of gandhi is "gandh" meaning odor or bad smell. It can also be the "gandh" meaning butt or ass. gandhi thus has the meaning that of bad smell , odor and the name may have been given to a low caste family due to professions in leatherworking cleaning toilets, etc — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.179.178.12 (talk) 13:46, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

This would be a coatrack content. This article is about Gandhi as a biography of a person not Ghandhi as a name.--SharabSalam (talk) 11:30, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
  1. ^ Markovits, Claude (2004), The UnGandhian Gandhi: The Life and Afterlife of the Mahatma, Anthem Press, pp. 79–, ISBN 978-1-84331-126-3