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Professor?[edit]

Should Mohinder be added to the category of 'Category:Fictional professors'? --DJ Chair 12:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah cause he is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BioYu-Gi! (talkcontribs) at 17:53, October 17, 2006
I wasn't sure, because he is no longer teaching at the college, and thus not really a professor. --DJ Chair 13:32, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
not being a member of the academic community myself I can't say for certain but the way I understand it the title of Professor is like the title Doctor you get to keep it even after you retire. Granted the title and it being your occupation are different but I would say he should be listed there. -- Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  05:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
So, as a compromise, should we list his occupation as Professor of Taxi-Cabs? --DJ Chair 13:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I also added him to the List of heroic fictional scientists and engineers -- prezzey 00:44, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Mohinder's occupation[edit]

My change of Mohinder's occupation to 'Professor' was reverted. I disagree with the change to 'Cab driver', but I do understand the reasoning.

I think we should go with the occupation most relevant to the character. 'Cab driver' is incidental, and we don't even know if that 'job' lasted after the encounter with Mr. Bennett. Mohinder's background as a paranormal geneticist (or whatever) is much more relevant to his role in the story.

Thoughts? Elliskev 17:22, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

On the NBC website, Mohinder's occupation is described as "genetics professor," and that's how he describes himself on the show. Primogen 22:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Since I have a legitimate reference for what Mohinder's occupation is, I changed it on the article and included the citation. Primogen 23:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Degree[edit]

On Mohinder's page at nbc.com, if you click his degree on the wall, you will see it zoomed in. The text on the degree is as follows:

The Regents of the
University of Madras (in nice big flowery letters)
on the nomination of the Graduate Council of Madras have conferred upon
Mohinder Suresh (in nice big block letters)
having demonstrated ability by original research in Parapsychology this degree of Doctor of Philosophy with all the rights and privileges thereto pertaining
(signature) (seal) (signature)

(On the degree itself, it's all capital letters, but that's hard to read here, so I've proper-cased it.) So actually, the degree itself is just "Doctor of Philosophy"; it's just that his original research (eep!) was in Parapsychology. --Psiphiorg 21:23, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Good detective work, Psiphiorg! (Um, that doesn't count as original research, does it? :-) ) So, Mohinder does have Ph.D. in Parapsychology after all. (Hm, funny that he considered Peter's stories to be nutty, even though he took psychics and poltergeists seriously enough to devote his doctorate degree to their study. ). But he is also a genetics professor, according to elsewhere on the website. Primogen 22:33, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
He could teach Genetics, and still have a Ph.D in Parapsychology. For example, most lawyers have a degree in engineering or something, but they usually dont have one in law.

Mohinder's Powers[edit]

It was listed as "retrocognition," but I changed it to "clairvoyance." Retrocognition is simply a term to know that which has already happened, far too generic to describe Mohinder's abilities. Anyone is a retrocognetic. If you have memories, you have the ability of retrocognition. However, clairvoyance is a much more specific term used for the supernatural ability to know that which has already happened even if you have no possible way of knowing it. Mohinder's visions of his parents talking and his father's death are both events that he had no way of seeing firsthand, therefore they aren't memories that can simply be accessed when he wished. In the study of extrasensory perception, "clairvoyant" is commonly the label tagged to people who share abilities similar to what Mohinder has expressed. 66.82.9.42 06:16, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

That's a good guess, but IMO I don't think it is really clear what Mohinder's powers are yet, and to what extent. I'll leave others to do the edit warring though...--Hypergeometric2F1(a,b,c,x) 06:21, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Actually the ability to see the past as if it is currently happening around you at the time is "postcognition". Not everybody can do it, they just guess or piece together the events in hindsight. "Clairvoyance" is the ability to see that which others can't see. This includes precognition, postcognition, telepathy, aura reading, ghost visitations, dream walking, astral projection, etc. As for whether it was Mohinder's power or Sanjog's, is difficult to determine. Sanjog is a dream walker, allowing him to enter dreams. Mohinder would have to already be dreaming or seeing the events to run into Sanjog. Mohinder also has a postcognative even in New York. Later Peter has a postcognative event (or goes back in time, it isn't determined yet), suggesting he picked up anotherability from Mohinder. If we are to believe Peter's mother has an ability, it'd most likely be either "Visions" (seeing things that are not visible to the naked eye, such as ghosts, auras and invisible men) or "Predictive Dreams" both of which Peter expirenced. But I digress. 70.108.75.178 17:26, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

How do we know that he even has powers? The little boy with the soccer ball, Tyler Something, was seen in a folder along with news clippings about sleep and dreams. Maybe this kid can manipulate dreams? It is too soon to be calling these powers Mohinder's--Piemanmoo 07:45, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

His name was Iyer Sanjog. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.154.132.102 (talk) 18:46, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

It was the boy, not Mohinder. I think it should be taken down.

144.118.211.22

Somebody took it down, correctly so. Primogen 19:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
I know. It was me :) 144.118.211.22

Can we decide to either put "Unknown" or "None" for Mohinder's power. It keeps changing. Basically we need to decide if the possibility exists that Mohinder has the ability or not. PureSoldier 23:54, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

It really doesn't. They stated Micah's power months ago in TV guide. Mohinder's always been frankly discribed as a non-superhuman. The power was the boy's. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 04:17, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
OK, I haven't seen any official things, unless they're on here. Thanks for the info.PureSoldier 06:21, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Mohinder might have the power to see into different times although he cannot do it like Isaac who does it for certain people/groups but just in times. My main reason for thinking this is because of how Peter dreams that he is the "bomb." There hasn't been any evidence that he was around a superhuman who could do that but he did come in contact with Mohinder.--71.173.52.75 23:13, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

The reason I think he has the power of retrocognition is because later on, Pater was shown to have the exact same power, and he never encountered the boy with soccer ball. (I'm referring to the episode near the end of the second season, where he talks to Roundtree's character). In both cases, the power is used while the character is dreaming. Since nothing has been explicitly stated, yet, it doesn't belong on the page; but I think it's only a matter of time. (24.160.243.221 18:19, 15 October 2007 (UTC))

It's been stated both in interviews and in the graphic novels that mohinder does not and will not ever have powers. As for peter, it was deliberately left unexplained whether or not it was a combination of time travel/invisiblity (as devaux stated when he saw peter that invisiblity would be a good power to have), dreamwalking, or whatever, so that can't be used as an example.Akuzio 05:07, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Mohinder doesn't have an ability (yet). And though, I think I would love to see Mohinder kick some bad guy butt, Mohinder does not have precignition nor dream walking. In the graphic novels "Pieces of me" and "Different and the same" Sanjog Lyer makes both characters in the comic books see their past as he did Mohinder. Peter evidently got the power of precignition from Angela Petrelli, because if you look at Untold Stories (The scenes shot as if they were going on with season 2 before the writers strike) on the Season 2 DVD set, Disk 4, you will see that Angela Petrelli dreams of a dire future where all the heroes are dead. At the end of this, you will see the words "Teaser" flashing on the screen. I'm sorry I just had to share my Heroes knolege with you. I'm only 12, but when it comes to Mohinder, I know more than a lot of people. (Not to gloat)--Mohinder613 68.214.212.174 (talk) 05:24, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Antibodies[edit]

Would the use of Mohinders anti-bodies as the exclusive cure to the unsaid disease qualify as a special ability? This is an ability that no other human apparently has. In addition, the graphic novel shows that he does not need to refine it, the antibodies, will work with simple blood tranfustions. 66.109.248.114 19:46, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

→ No I don't think so, mainly because of the latest episode where his antibodies can't cure the new strain of the virus. I think Mohinder has to remain a 'powerless' character on heroes. ZoneGhost 22:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

it has been confirmed by multiple cast members that Mohinder has spiderman like powers. That doesn't mean that he can shoot webbing from his wrists or have spider sense. It means he can stick to any surface and climb on it. This has been confirmed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.108.139.243 (talk) 15:34, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Confirmed...where? Gotta have a reference to have it in. ~QuasiAbstract {talk/contrib} 15:46, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
And it better be intractable, unambiguous, and official. We've had people trying to use commercials and trailers as refs... that's not gonna work. padillaH (review me)(help me) 16:34, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
It isn't confirmed anywhere, and if anything the similarities between Mohinder and another fictional character would be "Brundlefly" from the Fly. Everything about Mohinder in the second episode appears to be a homage if not a reference to Goldblum's character.--crickitobs (talk) 06:42, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Previously, I would have agreed that he does not, and will not, have powers. But it looks like (based on the promos) that after Season 3, this will have to be changed!! 65.198.207.11 (talk) 03:14, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Number of appearances[edit]

It's not premature counting. Mohinder appears in all episodes so far except for "Nothing to Hide" and "Six Months Ago". That is 8, not 7. Please, don't revert these changes, I checked all the numbers of appearances for the main characters, and lots of them were wrong. I'm *not* including tonigh's episode. Renenarciso 21:02, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

The drug to stop Sylar ...[edit]

Didn't he say it was curare? I have deleted the episode so someone else will have to look it up. Padillah 18:27, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

So far there is no cure for the genetic occurence that causes their powers. The cure in the future was a virus that kills those it's injected into. Also when he used the antibodies in his blood to cure Molly was just to stop some sort of virus that clouded her powers.DarkAvenger280 05:15, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

I think it should be noted that it was Mohinder's antibodies that cured Molly. Why is this notable? Because that "cure" was found by Chandra, who had kept it hidden. That could possibly be a connection to some type of power Mohinder has - Something like Linderman's. 74.12.5.47 22:47, 16 May 2007 (UTC) Joe Caron

Not "cure"...Curare a paralyzing poison. He used it to paralyze Sylar so he couldn't use his powers. Unfortunately he didn't make it strong enough and Sylar was able to turn the flow down a little at a time as Mohinder talked. Padillah 15:13, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Age[edit]

In episode 121 (the story line was in 2006), it is revealed that Shanti died in 1974 at age of 5, when Mohinder was about to be born. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 06:50, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, so that makes Mohinder roughly 32. I've put that in. --Harlequin212121 20:13, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Mohinder's accent[edit]

Is his having an accent really noteworthy? What impact does it have on ANYTHING AT ALL!?!?! I want to get rid of the mention but don't want to start an edit war. Please supply me with an overridding reason that an affected accent (it's not even a real accent) is noteworthy in any regard. Padillah 18:17, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I'd say you should just go ahead and delete it -- I mean, Greg Grunberg has a very distinctive voice, but there's nothing on Matt Parkman's page about that... 68.116.180.107 18:24, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Sanskit vs. Religion[edit]

Should his knowledge of Sanskrit be an indicator of his religious beliefs? I was under the impression it was taught with other "mother tongues" in India. Several of my friends know it and they don't impress me as religious. Does somebody know the answer to this? Do we need to rephrase the sentence so that his familiarity with the ritual rather than his ability to speak Sanskrit is the focus? Padillah 12:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

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Categories[edit]

I have an issue with the Category "Fictional Indian", HE'S NOT FICTIONAL. Sendhil Ramamurthy really IS Indian, it's not an act. His being Indian is in no way central to the character or plot surrounding the character. His particular beliefs can be instilled in anyone brought up under given circumstances. Are we going to put Categories on Noah and Bob: Fictional White Guys? I have yet to see where his heritage has proven to be plot-centric, these categories are not-notable and should be removed. Padillah (talk) 13:42, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

In other words, the CHARACTER is Indian because Sendhil Ramamurthy is Indian. It's not like Sacha Barron Cohen who plays Borat. That Borat is from Khazakstan is part of the character, it's central to the character. If ANYONE were to portray Borat they must portray him as Khazakstani. Ramamurthy is not portraying an Indian, any more than Greg Grunberg is portraying a white guy. Padillah (talk) 13:51, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

They have said on the show that he (the character) is Indian. One of the graphic novels even explored his Indian beliefs. Josh (talk | contribs) 14:18, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Have you SEEN Sendhil Ramamurthy? He's not the whitest guy in the room. Of course his character is Indian, that's not the distinction I am making. OK, could anyone play Mohinder Suresh? If Leonard Roberts played "Mohinder" and Ramamurthy played "D.L." what would the writers have to change? Would they even have to change the scripts much? No. What if Kristen Bell played "Mohinder", would there need to be much change? No. See, it's not even pivotal to the character that it be male, much less Indian. It's a "chicken and egg" argument. I am positing that 'the character is Indian because Ramamurthy is Indian', not 'Ramamurthy was chosen to play an Indian character'. That the writers expounded on his character (now that he is established as being Indian) is just a testament to the great work the writers are doing in fleshing out the characters and making them "real". Does that help explain? Padillah (talk) 14:51, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Sendhil Ramamurthy was born in the U.S. to Indian parents, while the character he plays is supposed to be originally from India, so... I'm not really sure where you're going with this. There have been multiple instances where we've seen Suresh in India, or references to the fact that he's Indian (Sylar mentions it when talking about karma; Suresh sings to Molly in what would most logically be Tamil but honestly I don't know). So, yes, if an actor who couldn't very easily pass for Indian were chosen for the role, it probably would've been changed considerably, at least in the first season. Also, the character was conceived before Ramamurthy was cast, given that it was rewritten due to his age, so it's not unlikely that 'he was chosen to play an Indian character' rather than the other way around. I honestly think you're giving the writers too much credit when it comes to "fleshing out" - the only time I'm aware of the writers changing the nationality of a character based on casting was for The Haitian, and we still don't know his real name. But either way, I can see your issue with the 'Fictional Indians' list in general given that there's no 'Fictional white people' list (there may be a 'Fictional Americans' list, I'm not sure), but the place to discuss that would be over at the list page itself. Shoroko (talk) 23:40, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Do we still need the Alternate Future section?[edit]

I'd like to get rid of the alternate future sections. They are outdated and invalid since Peter stopped that version of the future from happening. Yes, I understand there are references to the future in the new season but to keep the information on the off chance that it will be related to something that might come up is the embodiment of WP:CRYSTAL. We need to purge these sections. padillaH (review me)(help me) 13:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

  • The Alternate Future section remains important because it drives the events of the first season, represents an important facet of each character in the series. To argue that the changed future negates this section of the plot line is like saying that because Nathan did not explode in NYC, we should remove references to that plot point as well. The alternate future is a component of what created the real present in the series, and is valid and necessary by extension. Keep the Alternate Future section. 76.125.232.26 (talk) 22:52, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Similarities between The Fly[edit]

There's a lot of similarities and storylines taken or "borrowed" from The Fly. At least the movie with Jeff Goldblum, I haven't seen the older ones, but he's a scientist working on a project that could change the world and decides to test himself and, of course, he gets superhuman powers when his DNA gets fused with a fly. The scene where he's walking on the ceiling is very similar, even his personality, he even gets the marks on the back of his shoulders. Whether this is stolen from The Fly or it's a homage, it's very similar. --24.11.211.126 (talk) 03:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

You thought of the fly? When I saw that I was thinking Spider-Man. Hell I was waiting for him to throw up some horns and shoot a web. --Anonymous —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.104.172.194 (talk) 23:43, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

It was lifted almost scene for scene from the Jeff Goldblum version of the Fly. --68.81.70.65 (talk) 06:13, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Unless you have a citation, it shouldn't be added. ~QuasiAbstract {talk/contrib} 09:54, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

In Heroes Unmasked - series 3, episode 3 or 4 (I believe), Jeph Loeb was quoted as saying "It's a tried and tested method, Dr Jekyll, The Fly" I'm sure we can get the exact quote if needed? However it doesn't relate to the scene, more what the character's doing. -- WORMMЯOW  09:30, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

virus versus new cure[edit]

ok, correct me if im wrong, but isnt there a strand of the shanti virus taht isnt fatal per say, but simply renders the posthuman unable to use their abilities? wasnt sylar injected with it during the second season, and thus hindered, but not dead? wouldnt this be a suitable cure, rather than like, building a new one based off of research of the formula for synthetic abilities? idk y, it just seens like he's doing too much work. sorry if this is irrelevant. --Late Leo (talk) 20:53, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Mad Scientist vs. Television Supervillain[edit]

It is true Mohinder has become a psycho bug-boy, but does that mean we should list him as one of the twenty-one television super villains? Mohinder has been a hero for two seasons and most likely will stop his evil strike at the end if this volume. (That’s my personal opinion and if anyone has heard differently I apologize.) As the last discussion section implied, I think he’s more of a “mad scientist” character than a full blown supervillain. If anything, I think he should be listed under the list of mad scientists. (Not to be confused with evil genius.) Mohinder’s actions are the after affects of the experiment he did on himself out of the impulse of advancement of his research. He’s now reaping what he sowed and trying to reverse the process. I visited the mad scientist page before even considering Mohinder in this category, but I believe he has shown some of the characteristics of that of a mad scientist. Please visit this page and share your thoughts. Once again, I’m suggesting we remove him from the Category: Television supervillains and place him under the List of mad scientists. Please share your thoughts… 68.214.212.186 (talk) 18:59, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Category removed; it wasn't needed. --Ckatzchatspy 20:39, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. 68.214.212.186 (talk) 19:47, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Please Explain...[edit]

I'm sorry if I'm just missing something, but it was my understanding that Arthur could choose when to use his ability, and when not to. Just because Arthur hasn’t taken Mohinder’s abilities yet, doesn’t mean that they’re “nontransferable.” I was under the impression that Arthur didn’t take Mohinder’s power when asked to by Mohinder, because he was just trying to get Mohinder to work for him. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but do think about it. Maybe Arthur is just stringing Mohinder along, telling him the only cure is a new formula he wants Mohinder to perfect. Arthur has been around Knox, Daphne, Maury Parkman, Flint, not to mention Nathan and Sylar, and he didn’t take their abilities. 68.214.212.186 (talk) 22:27, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

That was definitely speculation (as was the sentence before it) and has been removed. ~Auzemandius {talk/contrib} 22:51, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! 68.214.212.186 (talk) 23:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

208.103.156.55[edit]

This user made two edits restoring some OR which someone else had already removed. I've reverted them. Maybe we should only allow logged in users to edit this article? Digifiend (talk) 09:21, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Disruption probably hasnt reached the levels that support page protection yet. -- The Red Pen of Doom 11:41, 3 April 2009 (UTC)