Talk:Monarchy of Papua New Guinea

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The Queen[edit]

So, Prince Charles has been to New Guinea at least three times. Has the Queen ever been there ?Eregli bob (talk) 06:39, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Divisible monarchy?[edit]

The article states as a fact that the monarchy is separate and legally distinct from that of the other realms. That is a debated and contentious argument, and certainly should not be recorded as a fact. There are practical and legal reasons for arguing against the idea of a separate monarchy, not the least of which are that the PNG Constitution states that the sovereign is the British sovereign, and that British laws pertaining to the Crown have effect on the "Queen of Papua New Guinea". I think that the balance of evidence clearly establishes that the crown has not been divided.Royalcourtier (talk) 00:48, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

I disagree, at least with your use of "clearly." Section 82 of the Const. provides that "Her Majesty the Queen– "(a) having been REQUESTED BY THE PEOPLE OF Papua New Guinea, through their Constituent Assembly, to become the Queen and Head of State of Papua New Guinea; and "(b) having graciously consented SO to become, is the Queen and Head of State of Papua New Guinea." (Capitalized emphasis added.)

I realize that, a couple of sections later, the trappings of the monarchy are extended to the heirs and successors of the *UK* monarch, but so what? For one thing, there's nothing to say that "heirs and successors" are determined under UK law rather than PNG law--maybe, as in Canada, there's unresolved/ambiguous constitutional authority on the line of succession. I'd argue that, even if PNG DID incorporate UK law by reference, that's still no mark against PNG's determination of its own sovereign. It's like if a US state decides to follow (as they usually do) the federal standard regarding whether a particular expense is tax-deductible. That doesn't mean the state government is somehow merged with the federal.2601:204:D502:1837:E136:4A4C:79E5:64E3 (talk) 18:22, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

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