Talk:Mormon sex in chains case

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Miss Wyoming?[edit]

If Joyce McKinney was a "former Miss Wyoming", how is it that she is not listed on the Miss Wyoming page? Perhaps she was just a contestant. Giles Martin (talk) 00:19, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

She's also not in Miss Wyoming USA, which I initially thought might be the solution. Or she could have won a sub-competition, like "Miss Teen Wyoming" or whatever. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:25, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Beats me, too. But we tend to trust citations rather than other WP articles, so, unless there is a citation that shows that she was not a winner of a competition with a similar name, then I imagine it has to stand since it is cited in a reliable source? Fiddle Faddle (talk) 09:59, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Sometimes winners of beauty contests get their titles revoked - Helen Morgan was pressured into resigning in 1974, and the runner-up took over. The reason - Morgan had a child. Maybe the Miss Wyoming people objected to the nude modelling, and expunged Joyce McKinney from the records? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.3.43.55 (talk) 17:52, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

It now says "Miss Wyoming World", but the List of United States representatives at Miss World doesn't mention state-level contests... AnonMoos (talk) 01:30, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Dunno. The sources (like this one) generally just say she was crowned "Miss Wyoming" without elaboration, so I think probably the article should say no more than that and perhaps not attempt to wikilink to any particular beauty pageant title. It's interesting original research trying to figure out what title it was, but I don't think it's anything the WP article needs to concern itself about too much. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:13, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
I see now that there were a bunch of corrections in newspapers about this issue that ran in 2008 (some of them cited in the article). I just read some of them, and they say, "The Associated Press erroneously reported that she was Miss Wyoming USA in 1973. Joyce McKinney was Miss Wyoming World, which had no connection to the Miss Wyoming USA event." That seems to be enough for us to say it was "Miss Wyoming World". It's not the same pageant group that sends American contestants to Miss World. If a Miss Wyoming were to go to Miss World, that would be Miss Wyoming USA. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:20, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Substantiation? Legal follow-up? [Query][edit]

Did the police ever corroborate Anderson's story? Were chains found in the place where he was reported to be held? If so, was his blood on the manacles? What fingerprints were found? Did the scene correspond with his description? Did either party bear bruises or abrasions, especially where chains and manacles would have bitten into the skin of a struggling person? Was Anderson traumatically sodomized? Surely the police found something or McKinney wouldn't have been charged and then out on bail. What were the charges, anyhow? How much bail did she have to pay?

"Along with Keith May, her co-conspirator..." - Was this person a co-conspirator in the reported abduction and battery of Anderson or merely the flight from justice?

"...the English court sentenced McKinney in absentia to a year in jail." - She never returned to face this conviction? Is she still considered a fugitive in England? Was there ever a civil suit?

There are a lot of gaps in this article. Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 06:04, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

All we can report in the article is material that has been reported on by reliable sources. If you know of reliable sources that address these issues, discussion of them could be added. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:04, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

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