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Former good article Morocco was one of the Geography and places good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Morocco/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Hi! I will be reviewing this article for GA status, and should have the full review up shortly. Dana boomer (talk) 23:57, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
    • The lead needs to be expanded. For an article of this length it should be three to four paragraphs long, fully summarizing the article without presenting new information. References are generally not needed in the lead, except for extremely controversial statements, but this is up to the discretion of the individual editor.
    • The History section should be trimmed. It should be shortened to a maximum of 7-8 paragraphs and the excess information moved to the sub articles.
    • There are too many short sections that relate to politics, the judiciary and foreign relationships. These should be combined, and sub-sections should be utilized where appropriate.
    • The Transport section needs to be expanded - it cannot be simply a link to a main article.
    • The Affiliations section and Bilateral and multilateral agreements should be combined with the International organization affiliations section.
    • The Geography section has three very short subsections that need to be expanded or combined.
    • The third external link (Public Services) deadlinks.
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
    • The major issue that this article has is the lack of references. Entire sections are lacking references, including many areas of specific facts and non-widely known information. Correcting this with reliable sources will take a significant amount of time and work.
    • Other language Wikipedias, such as the Persian (current ref #9) and Turkish (current ref #10) ones, are not acceptable references for an English language Wikipedia article.
    • Current ref #21 (Profile on Morocco) deadlinks.
    • Current ref #28 (Genetic structure of north-west Africa revealed by STR analysis) deadlinks.
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
    • See the comments on sections that need to be expanded in the first section above.
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
    • The main editors may want to check the significant editing that was done by IP editors recently.
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

I'm afraid I'm going to have to fail this article's GA nomination. There is too much work that needs to be done with organization and referencing. The article has potential, but needs a large time investment before it can be of GA status. If you have any questions, please bring them to my talk page. Dana boomer (talk) 00:41, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 May 2015[edit]

Hello,

I'd like to insert a sub-head under Politics: "Women's political empowerment in Morocco". Below this would read:

Morocco’s active women’s movement initially attracted mostly urban-educated women but expanded during the 1990s. It broadened its appeal, drawing in both secular and Islamist women, and lobbied for equality for women and girls in access to services, employment and political voice. This has lead to progressively greater presence in civil society and the formal political system. As a result; women’s representation in parliament has increased dramatically, from 1% in 2003 to 17% in 2015; Morocco’s 2004 Family Code is one of the most progressive in the Arab world; in 1993, Morocco ratified an international agreement on gender equality that has provided leverage for further progress in domestic legislation. This has lead to improvements in women's health and social outcomes: the fertility rate is now one of the lowest in the region; the maternal mortality rate fell by two-thirds in just two decades; girls’ primary school enrolment rose from 52% in 1991 to 112% in 2012 (due to re-enrolment); and just under 23% of women are in formal employment (2011).[1]

Bentritton (talk) 15:20, 12 May 2015 (UTC) Thanks, Ben Tritton

References

  1. ^ Castillejo, Clare; Tilley, Helen. "The Road to Reform: Women's political voice in Morocco" (PDF). Development Progress. Overseas Development Institute. Retrieved 12 May 2015. 
Seems like undue weight to me. What that means is that the article should not have such a large section about this subject when there's other aspects to discuss also. I would suggest adding it to Women in Morocco instead. Stickee (talk) 01:12, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 June 2015[edit]

FYI: when I logged on to Wikipedia today at approximately 5:38 pm from Barcelona, from my account ("Maria Ashot" on an Apple Mac "Air" notebook), I saw a yellow highlighted banner announcement concerning my alleged "last edit." I followed the link to a page on Morocco. I clicked on the edit: It was an inappropriate one-liner in Spanish which implies something sexual, and was utterly irrelevant to the content of the page.

The reason I am submitting this request for your review is because I, Maria Ashot, have never made any kind of edit to any article on Morocco, anywhere -- including specifically on any Wiki portal.

I have no idea what has happened to my computer or how it has been hacked or taken over, or why. None of my family members would be capable of such an annoying action, nor would they have any motivation to pull such a prank. I hope you can investigate and let me know, or let your IT team know, who/what is tampering with Wiki content.

Submitted on Saturday, 6 June 2015

Respectfully yours, Maria Ashot88.9.243.125 (talk) 15:48, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

88.9.243.125 (talk) 15:48, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

As can be seen at Special:Contributions/88.9.243.125, the IP address you are using was used to make this edit. We have no way of tracking people except through their IP address unless they register a username. Ian.thomson (talk) 15:52, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Lede needs pruning[edit]

This opening paragraph is too redundant:

Morocco (Listeni/məˈrɒk/; Berber: ⵎⵓⵔⴰⴽⵓⵛ Murakush means "Land of God" ; Arabic: المغربal-Maġrib means "The West" ; French: Maroc), officially the Kingdom of Morocco, is a country in the Maghreb region of North Africa. Geographically, Morocco is characterized by a rugged mountainous interior and large portions of desert. It is one of only three countries (with Spain and France) to have both Atlantic and Mediterranean coastlines. The berber name Tageldit-n-Murakush ⵜⴰⴳⵍⴷⵉⵜ ⵏ ⵎⵓⵔⴰⴽⵓⵛ meaning "The Kingdom of Murakush" (The english name "Morocco" originates from the berber name Murakush which means "Land of God") and the arabic name al-Mamlakah al-Maghribiyah المملكة المغربية meaning "The Western Kingdom" are commonly used as alternate names.

Do we really need all the same translation notes in the 1st and 4th sentences? The 1st presents it efficiently; I think the 4th should be either deleted, buried much later in the article, or pruned to purely information not already contained in the opening parentheticals. (?) Squish7 (talk) 11:02, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 July 2015[edit]

At the beginning of the last paragraph under the section "Sharifian dynasties" section, it states that "Morocco was the first nation to recognize the fledgling United States as an independent nation in 1777."

In fact, I contacted the U.S. State Department directly regarding this issue and this was the response from Tiffany Cabrera, Ph.D., who is a historian at the U.S. Department of State:

"Thank you for your inquiry. This is one of those complicated issues in U.S. foreign policy history that involves the kind of historical and legalistic interpretation that leaves a window open for some continued debate.

During the early years of U.S. history, acts of recognition typically included the signing of a treaty, the appointment of diplomatic representatives, or the establishment of consular offices (these did not necessarily take place at the same time). Recognition of the United States by France dates from the signing of the Treaties of Alliance and of Amity and Commerce in Paris on February 6, 1778.

Scholars disagree as to whether Sultan Sidi Muhammed XVI's proclamation on December 20, 1777 that Moroccan ports were open to American shipping was an act of de facto recognition. A Department of State Bulletin article, "Long-Time Friends: Early U.S.-Moroccan Relations, 1777-1787," which was published in the September 1987, tackled the issue of Moroccan recognition of the United States by looking at original records. It provides probably the most thorough account available of the relevant details, and ultimately concludes that in 1777 the Sultan of Morocco "intended to recognize the United States, but official recognition did not occur until the treaty with the United States was signed [in 1786]."

I hope this helps clarify, but please let us know if you have any further questions.

Best,

Tiffany H. Cabrera, Ph.D. Historian, Special Projects Division Office of the Historian U.S. Department of State"

In addition, according the U.S. State Department's own website, it states that France was the first nation to recognize the United States (https://history.state.gov/about/faq/first-to-recognize-US).

Therefore, please change "Morocco was the first nation to recognize the fledgling United States as an independent nation in 1777.[23][24][25][26] In the beginning of the American Revolution, American merchant ships in the Atlantic Ocean were subject to attack by the Barbary pirates. On 20 December 1777, Morocco's Sultan Mohammed III declared that American merchant ships would be under the protection of the sultanate and could thus enjoy safe passage. The Moroccan–American Treaty of Friendship, signed in 1786, stands as the U.S.'s oldest non-broken friendship treaty.[27][28]" to the following:

"Although some accounts state that Morocco was the first nation to recognize the United States as an independent nation in 1777, scholars disagree whether Sultan Sidi Muhammed XVI's proclamation on December 20, 1777 - that Moroccan ports were open to American shipping - constituted an act of de facto recognition. By comparison, France officially recognized the existence of the United States with the signing of the Treaties of Alliance and of Amity and Commerce in Paris on February 6, 1778, becoming the first nation to officially recognize the United States. While the Moroccan sultan may have intended to recognize the United States, official recognition by Morocco did not occur until the signing of the Moroccan-American Treaty of Friendship in 1786."

Bambino106 (talk) 03:34, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Morocco is not an ethnically diverse country.[edit]

In short, the first line under "Culture" declares that "Morocco is an ethnically diverse country with a rich culture and civilization," yet the data summary box of Morocco's profile at the top left of the page lists "Ethnic groups (2014[2]) Arab-Berber 99%, other 1%." If that demographic profile equates ethnic diversity, then it is redundant to ever point out a place's ethnic diversity as it would be a given under every likely circumstance.

Also, a culture being described as "rich" is fairly subjective.

"Arab-Berber" is not a singular ethnicity. Arabs and Berbers are distinct ethnicities, and the latter can be broken down even further. I guess whomever collected that data or set up that category (the government?) consciously decided not to distinguish ethnicities. Walrasiad (talk) 17:30, 25 July 2015 (UTC)