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Lacks sources[edit]

This article lacks sources, and contains phrases such as "It is fairly agreed", "Another concern raised is..." and "Experts debate the long-term value of...". It also, to my mind, seems to be too favourable in tone, lacking any substantive objective critisism (which I am sure exists) of the industry. Ailahusky 23:12, 9 May 2007 (UTC)ailahusky

Agree[edit]

I was going to the discussion page to exactly highlight the lack of sources and the richness of random assumptions in the article.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.87.98.224 (talkcontribs) 15:47, 23 May 2007

Why is so much attention devoted to bashing religious motivational speeches?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.70.16.43 (talkcontribs) 03:07, 17 August 2007

Me, too. Wikipedia is not a how-to guide, nor an editorial. This article has some very significant problems. 71.174.226.117 20:34, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
I think I did a decent job of editing out the bias. Anyone like to take a second look? Tserton 02:31, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
The edits you did are good, Tserton, but the article still needs sources and still violates WP:NPOV, imo. I added tags. I will be watching this page and nominating it for deletion without MAJOR repairs. Right now, it's nothing more than a biased essay. Keeper | 76 16:09, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Rename[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:10, 8 March 2010 (UTC)


Motivational speakerMotivational speaking — because a subject-oriented name is more encyclopedic.--Booksoul (talk) 01:33, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

  • Support, I agree, an article on the subject of motivational speaking in general is much better than only one on people who do it and the title should reflect that. Recury (talk) 19:04, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Criticism[edit]

Where's some criticism on the whole idea of motivational speaking? 97.118.63.76 (talk) 01:20, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

I agree... there is a critical voice and most intelligent people have little time for the pablum-like nostrums of motivational speakser. Rod —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.44.37.132 (talk) 07:46, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Concur...people (workers) know bullsh** when they hear it. The artcle does badly need a "Criticism" section. By the way, in the US motivational speaking almost always involves 'selling a message' (we sometimes call it 'selling snake oil'). The speaker does not operate for free! Perhaps we need to address that part of the industry?...Engr105th (talk) 06:15, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
I also think this would be a worthy improvement to the article, but the criticism would have to be noteworthy and reliably sourced, right? Cyberflag1 (talk) 13:59, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
One possible source to look into: Sham: How the Self-Help Movement Made America Helpless, by Steve Salerno. Thoughts? Cyberflag1 (talk) 15:08, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Shakespeare's Henry V (play)[edit]

Shakespeare's play Henry V contains a very good motivational speech. I'm surprised no mention is made here of it or any other historically important motivational speeches. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geremia (talkcontribs) 20:13, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Pep talk[edit]

Pep talk redirects here yet this article does not discuss this particular mode of communication. __meco (talk) 19:57, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Thomas is dominating Wikipedia by his own rules.[edit]

Hell0 Guys, I made a normal edit and Thomas reverted it calling it as promotion. I was there to clear the orphan issue. He reverted my edit without thinking that it was a legal edit. Hollenderek (talk) 09:24, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

@Hollenderek: There are thousands of "motivational speakers" so we don't list just a few of them. And especially not the name you added, with a link to a newly created article about a barely notable motivational speaker, since that is obvious promotion. How did you even find that article? Two throw-away accounts have previously tried to add that name to this article, followed by the article being created yesterday, bypassing "Articles for Creation", and you adding the name and the link today. That many coincidences can't be just coincidences... Thomas.W talk 09:41, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Examples of famous motivational speakers[edit]

Not particularly upset about my edit being reverted here, but could we at least have a discussion about whether the article would be improved or not, to show readers some specific examples of the most noteworthy motivational speakers in history? Cyberflag1 (talk) 13:56, 19 April 2017 (UTC)