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Chapter list[edit]

When the article was set up, the chapter list including only active chapters. Accordingly, since Xi has gone inactive, it was excluded from the list.

Editors have placed Xi on the list twice in the last few days. I've removed it each time. I'm going to ask the question: do we like the list as active chapters only, do we want a separate list of inactives, or do we want a combined list with inactives noted with a comment/asterisk/etc. —C.Fred (talk) 12:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Chapter list revisited[edit]

There has been a request by a Xi alumni to include inactive Chapters, or at least recently inactive Chapters, on this webpage. I think this is a valid and useful request, as it would serve two purposes: first, to make inactive alumni feel "included" as many of us are still active (or at least interested); second, it would indicate to interested parties that a Chapter once existed on Campus X and could possibly be re-started there.

I'm unsure how to best define "recently inactive" Chapters, but one way would be to list Chapters that still have members active in the Alumni Association. That list would currently include Delta, Kappa, and Xi. Grover173 (talk) 12:28, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

If it's sourced, I've got no problem with including all the inactive chapters, doubly if there's a reliable source with the dates of chartering and inactivity of the chapters. —C.Fred (talk) 22:14, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Further, other fraternities list active and inactive, q.v. List of Phi Kappa Theta chapters. —C.Fred (talk) 22:17, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
I can provide the charter year and year of inactivity for the three Chapters mentioned (Delta, Kappa, Xi). For other Chapters, I can give you the charter year but the year of inactivity will be harder to pin down--for all but one, I can give dates accurate to within about 2 years. I've asked the National Historian if he has any more detailed information. —Grover173 (talk) 13:45, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
IMO, date of charter is useful info to a reader. Date of inactivity is both subjective if a chapter trickles away and not necessarily as useful. I'm picturing a table like this (only two rows given as example, and I hope I remember right about Delta off the top of my head):
Chapter Location Chartered Status
Alpha (Α) North Carolina State University 1925 Active
Delta (Δ) Clemson University 19nn Inactive
Alumni can also be added to the list if it's formally chartered. —C.Fred (talk) 16:19, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
I think dates of inactivity are useful because it gives, within a year or two, a timeline for when a Chapter was last producing members. That information could help track down members if one so desired. All but one of the inactive Chapters (Gamma) have fairly accurate information regarding when they went dormant. Perhaps the table could be modified to look something like this (btw your memory regaring Delta was pretty good):
Chapter Location Chartered Status
Alpha (Α) North Carolina State University 1925 Active
Delta (Δ) Clemson University 1937 Inactive (2005)
As for Alumni Association, it's technically its own incorporated body (so it doesn't have the same Charter as collegiate Chapters) but it's treated in a national context like a Chapter. —Grover173 (talk) 11:42, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. And I say put Alumni on the last row of the table, but leave some prose either below the table or elsewhere in the article explaining its status. —C.Fred (talk) 11:50, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Tau Colony?[edit]

An anonymous editor added Tau as a colony to the chapter list today. I removed it because it was vague (it said only that the chapter was at Washington, DC, and not what college(s) it was at) and malformatted. I then checked the national website and saw no mention of a chapter. Does anybody have a source to verify the chapter? —C.Fred (talk) 17:38, 20 January 2011 (UTC)