Talk:Muhammad

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 November 2017[edit]

The images of Prophet Muhammad should be removed. This is a strict instruction in islam that we should not make, see and draw any picture of Prophets and God. 111.68.99.100 (talk) 07:25, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 10:24, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
And read Talk:Muhammad/FAQ, which explains the presence of these images and how you can configure your browser to avoid seeing them. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:48, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 December 2017[edit]

I want to change then name, Muhammad to Hazrat Muhammad(Peace be upon him) Zamoo123 (talk) 06:52, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Not done: Please read WP:PBUH. "In keeping with the neutral nature of Wikipedia, Islamic honorifics should generally be omitted from articles (whether Arabic or English), except where they are part of quotations." NeilN talk to me 07:05, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
I wonder if people who think such religious pronouncements are appropriate for an encyclopedia would accept someone else's religious pronouncement of "The liar Muhammad is a deciever of mankind and will burn in Hell for eternity" being used here? If the one is acceptable, then the other must be. --Khajidha (talk) 15:37, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Mary the copt listed as a "wife"[edit]

I'm not sure that Mary the copt should be listed as a "Wife", I don't think there was any marriage contract between them, she would be best described as a "concubine". Editor2343 (talk) 23:52, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

French[edit]

please change ((French)) to ((French language|French)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:541:4304:e6b0:218:8bff:fe74:fe4f (talk)

Already done Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 15:05, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Predecessor[edit]

I propose that the "predecessor" template be used for Jesus or Jesus son of Mary (in Islam). From a historical perspective, the former is appropriate given that Jesus precedes Muhammad as a religious figure in an Abrahamic context. Likewise, the latter is alternatively plausible given that he's considered the penultimate figure in the context of Islamic theology. I am seeking a possible consensus for this due to a reversion. AlHazen (talk) 22:41, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

@AlHazen: In what does he exactly precede him though? Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:51, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
My understanding is that Jesus precedes Muhammad in the chronological line of Islamic prophets going back to Adam, although in terms of lineage or ancestry, Muhammad's predecessor is probably Ishmael. So I can see that there might be some debate about who the predecessor actually is.
The real problem is that naming a predecessor presents religious viewpoint as an historical fact. Christians wouldn't agree that Jesus is any kind of "predecessor" to someone else because it implies that Muhammad is superior to Jesus. And Mormons would likely object as well; I believe they consider Jesus to be the predecessor of their prophet Joseph Smith, who isn't recognized by Muslims. And the Ahmadiyya would probably wonder why we aren't also listing Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as Muhammad's successor, if we include Jesus as a predecessor.
Therefore, including anything in the "predecessor" template field would violate WP:NPOV. We can't put things in article infoboxes that promote one religious viewpoint. Wikipedia is a secular project. ~Anachronist (talk) 00:52, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

It might be inaccurate[edit]

How do you know he died on 8th June 632? That date might actually be inaccurate, and I don't think it's even possible precisely dating when he died... 92.17.88.8 (talk) 03:44, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Yes, did you look at the first footnote in the article, which is specifically about that date? ~Anachronist (talk) 07:36, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
If you are speaking up to Islam, then you may have probably heard that Muhammad (SAW) had died on 12 Rabi-ul-Awwal, this date is written in lunar calendar. 39.38.41.128 (talk) 15:41, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
And that lunar date is in the vicinity of 7 or 8 June 632.[1] Any change to the article requires a citation to a reliable source. ~Anachronist (talk) 00:55, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Grammar[edit]

I cannot digest this sentence grammatically: "His view believed Islam as a great change." Please fix it if it is wrong. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:38, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Clearer Calligraphy for Image[edit]

As a Non-Muslim, I feel that the calligraphy on the door of The Prophet's Mosque is very unclear and too busy to represent the concept of "Muhammad". Is there a reason for using this specific picture of his name? Because IMO if Wikicommons could get ahold of a seal like this, the seal would be more understandable to non-Muslims, unless there's a reason why Muslims would be offended if the representation of the concept of "Muhammad" is not the calligraphy on the door of The Prophet's Mosque.ShemtovKML (talk) 21:15, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 January 2018[edit]

Muhammad[n 1] (Arabic: محمد‎; pronounced [muħammad];[n 2] French: Mahomet /məˈhɒmɪt/; latinized as Mahometus c. 570 CE – 8 June 632 CE)[1] was the founder of Islam. The statement above is wrong because Mohammed is not the founder of Islam. Mohammed never laid claim to creating another religion aside what had been practiced by other prophets and messengers before him.

Correction:

The religion of Islam was ordained for prophet Mohammed according to Quranic teachings.

References are provided as follows:5.172.154.30 (talk) 16:22, 18 January 2018 (UTC)Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).

He has ordained for you the same religion (Islam) which He enjoined on Noah, and that which We have revealed to you, and which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses and Jesus: namely that you should remain steadfast in religion and be not divided therein. (Quran 42:13).


"Say (O Muhammad to the Jews and Christians): 'We believe in Allah and that which has been sent to us and that which has been sent down to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob and to Al-Asbat, (the offspring of the twelve sons of Jacob) and that which has been given to Moses and Jesus, and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have submitted (in Islam).” (Quran 2:136)


"That which We have revealed to you (O Muhammad) of the Book (i.e., the Quran) is the Truth, confirming that which was (revealed) before it.” (Quran 35:31) 5.172.154.30 (talk) 16:22, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 16:25, 18 January 2018 (UTC)