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"By itself, it isn't considered cheating because it is difficult to control multiple characters at the same time"[edit]

I disagree with this line, because many modern MMOs have auto-attack, auto-follow etc, you can easily have the advantage in multi-boxing without it being difficult to control. I'm not removing the line, but in my opinion that it IS cheating even without the bots. I think it's mostly ignored because it means the player pays for two accounts. --84.92.62.165 18:21, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Being viable doesn't mean it's cheating. --Jeremy Banks 23:25, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
I'd define cheating as exploiting a bug or using a hack to circumvent a normal limitation of the game (e.g. runspeed hacks, unlimited health/ammo etc). Multiboxing is not cheating because you aren't doing anything you couldn't do if you grouped with another player instead; the characters are still subject to all of the rules of the gameworld and are controlled by a human directly. -- Rpvdk 13:38, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Rpvdk. Line removed. -- nacarlson 10:29, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
"Multiboxing is not cheating because you aren't doing anything you couldn't do if you grouped with another player instead;" And that's exactly why it's cheating: you're using hardware/software to achive tasks that otherwise require other human beings. When grouped with another players you share loot, when multiboxing it's all yours. So yes, you're doing something that is NOT possible (or at least likely) when playing with others. It's like running 100m in 4x100m and then driving remaining 300m because you did your part and were just unwilling/unable to find three other people to run with you. Anon 77.254.16.61 (talk) 11:39, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
You're still wrong, as it's also possible to multibox manually with multiple keyboards. The only thing the software does is clone keystrokes to let you use one; you're still pressing a button for every action. Plus, your opinion is irrelevant as opposed to the game developers Magus (talk) 17:19, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Runescape[edit]

"Games that do not allow a player to have more than one character at a time include [...] RuneScape." afaik, they don't limit the numbers of accounts but they don't want to play more than one at the same time. This is the reason why it's hard to tell how many people play Runescape even tough there are so many accounts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.88.27.45 (talk) 22:32, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

POV, article is one big pile of [citation needed][edit]

Not a single source to back up claim that multiboxing is not cheating. Just because it's not specifically mentioned in game'a ToS doesn't mean it's allowed. It could simply mean developers didn't hear about it/considered it bad enough to warrant own paragraph in game rules. Even if "technically" not cheating, some players see it that way (see talk page or pretty much any game forum where multiboxing is popular). I've been player long enough to know that cheaters/exploiters always try to come up with excuse and justify their actions. And last but not least, most sources are WoW-related despite article claiming it's about all MMOs. Not to mention some random internet forum (not even topic, just main forum page) used as source to justify claims made in article. Anon 77.254.16.61 (talk) 11:57, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

It's not PoV, but it is harder to get citations for things, as most of them tend to be posts on game forums which may or may not survive to present day. (WoW for instance has completely redone their forums in the switch to battle.net, and all old posts, including the ones approving multiboxing, are gone) Magus (talk) 17:20, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Many regular players try to come up with excuses and justify the fact that others are cheating, when they are only using clever game mechanics that regular players are not able/willing to use (farming, sniping, etc). As far as most game designers are concerned, multiboxing is tolerated and not considered cheating. Xerxes1337 (talk) 22:33, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
"Multi-boxing in-and-of-itself is not inherently bad or against our TOS." LOTRO community manager speaking for developer team. http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?515600-Twenty-Questions-with-the-LOTRO-Dev-Team Graphiya (talk) 02:39, 24 June 2013 (UTC)02:43, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

References[edit]

Does someone have the following book? https://books.google.nl/books?id=hVpHBtyaUJcC&pg=PA140&dq=multi-boxing&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jNWXVPCuFY6vacPFgrgB&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=multi-boxing&f=false It looks like an amazing source.

Found another book I don't own, but could prove an excelent source: https://books.google.nl/books?id=wutGAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA310&dq=multi-boxing&hl=en&sa=X&ei=iteXVOq8KYbdat-SgNAH&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=multi-boxing&f=false ~Mable (chat) 08:35, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

I have no idea what this book has to say about the topic, but it probably aids in establishing notability :p https://books.google.nl/books?id=q3o_80XEQOMC&pg=PA97&dq=multi-boxing&hl=en&sa=X&ei=0deXVMKUI43bavX_gPAN&redir_esc=y Again, if anyone has any of these books, try to implement them in the article! ~Mable (chat) 08:37, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Does anyone know if the following is reliable? http://services.runescape.com/m=rswiki/en/Multiple_logging-in It's hosted on somekind of wiki, but seems written by Runescape's developers/staff. ~Mable (chat) 10:22, 11 January 2015 (UTC)