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Is Nutrition data complete ?[edit]

Table accounts for only 6.7 % of weight. What is rest ? Water ? whole 93.4 % ? Then it should be very watery! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.61.33.208 (talk) 16:23, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

GA/FA push[edit]

I'm going to start working on this important article more actively. I'd like to convert the ref formatting to List-defined references. This will make it easier to edit the main body of the article, and makes it easier to standardize the refs for consistent formatting (a requirement of FAC). Let me know if there's any objections to doing this, otherwise I'll just go ahead and make the changes. Sasata (talk) 17:11, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

sounds good. Casliber (talk · contribs) 17:54, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

removal of the 'backlit gills' image[edit]

The mushroom pictured is clearly a coprinoid, which means that it's gills dissolve themselves. The mushroom appears to be in quite a late stage of deliquescence, so I'd rather put in an image that shows full gills, instead of mostly-dissolved ones. Kevin (talk) 06:51, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Psychoactive mushrooms[edit]

Seeing as the mushroom is illegal or at least regulated in most countries, this part of the article appears non-neutral to me with a bias towards legalizing its use or using it to get a spiritual experience. It seems as if the only objection to the positive effects is a quick mention of anxiety in a third of the subjects which is immediately objected as having disappeared quickly afterwards.

It just seems biased that the article doesn't feature any research showing adverse effects of the usage of the mushroom as it may encourage experimenting people to carelessly endorse in its use. Superpronker (talk) 16:35, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Mushrooms are plants[edit]

It is surely a lot of nonsense, as this article says, that mushrooms are not plants. They are living things, they are not protozoa and they are not part of the Animal Kingdom - ergo, they are plants. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 14:38, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

I have now changed this to be more accurate. It is certainly true that mushrooms are not flowering plants, ergo they are not angiosperms, but there are numerous members of the Plant Kingdom which could go in this category. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 14:42, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Roger Philips[edit]

It was announced on You and Yours on October 19 2011 that the soundest textbook on mushrooms was that by Roger Philips. I have not read the book myself, but any one who does know this book could add it to the list of references. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 10:20, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Oil decontamination[edit]

I've been fascinated with the idea of using mushrooms to break down oil in soil. Apparently this idea is still somewhat unknown? I was surprised to find it was not here. (This is my first real attempt at editing wiki) Hope I added it correctly. While the Ted Talk I referenced discusses other uses, I felt that one was the most noteworthy as oil-contaminated soil is very common. limbodog (talk) 17:09, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

It might be ok to add a comment under Other Uses -- you should write a draft first and post it here for input by others. Although Mr. Stamets is a dedicated grower, author and devoted self-described expert on mushrooms, his work is not typically published in scientific journals and has not been peer-reviewed or published by respected independent third-party journalism. Sometimes, he is more than a little off the wall. Example: his writing about how mushrooms "can save the world."[1] Accordingly, his views on mushrooms are not seen as representative of collective scientific thinking and consequently may not be factual; hence, they are not WP:RS.--Zefr (talk) 22:40, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

In Popular Culture[edit]

Is it worth expanding on the cultural significance of mushrooms, from those used in Super Mario Bros. to the mushroom cloud shapes of extreme explosions (like nuclear detonations)? - Team4Technologies (talk) 13:25, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Popular culture sections are appropriate in articles on pop culture subjects but in most other articles they amount to trivia listings and best left off. Video game references aren't notable either...they have no place except in articles on video games.
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► 22:10, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
Surely the mushrooms in Mario games, an extremely well-known icon from one of the most popular game series in history, would be notable enough to be included? -download ׀ talk 00:57, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Highly doubt it. Do you believe that someone has chosen to write about these as a notable topic beyond a brief mention? Significant coverage per our notability guidelines? If so, could you present it here, please. Even if you found one there would still be the question of due weight.
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► 01:10, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Fungophobia[edit]

I think a mushroom phobia needs to be addressed in the article. I think a great resource for mushroom phobia would be David Arora's Mushrooms Demystified, and excellent repository on mushrooms and even some on the culture. Would it be out of the question to add a section on this phobia? Leitmotiv (talk) 19:58, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

That would be a specific phobia but not a common one. As you have worded it here, this notion would be a fringe theory held by a very small minority. Are there numerous sources that discuss this? If you could compile substantial commentary in sources then you may have proved enough notability to merit mention. I seriously doubt that we are talking about a sincere phobia but rather peoples' dislikes.
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► 20:16, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Yeah I probably wasn't clear enough. Not a specific phobia identified by science, but a general multi-cultural phobia toward mushrooms. In the foreword of Mushrooms Demystified Arora details examples of colorful apprehensive cultural fungophobias in famous works by Witness Shelley, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, D.H. Lawrence, Emily Dickinson, and William Delisle Hays who coins the term as "fungophobia." Arora also notes Alan Snitow and his relationship with mushrooms in a contrary fashion. Arora does note however, that this phobia is not a "universal trait", but is readily apparent in mostly western countries, and in some parts of Europe most notably the UK (and probably Australia too). Leitmotiv (talk) 20:46, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

So far it looks like there is plenty of source material on the internet alone to document fungophobia, many who cite Arora, and plenty that don't. I have read articles on fungophobia in mushroom literature of the US, so it seems feasible to add this to the main article. I think the article would benefit readers, especially non-fungophobic cultures who are unaware of this cultural stigma toward mushrooms and fungi. Leitmotiv (talk) 21:40, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it's worth a paragraph or two. It might be a good idea to tie this in with the "Mushroom vs. toadstool" section. Sasata (talk) 21:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Okay I will toss in a sentence or three at the end of that paragraph as you suggested. Feel free to edit it and clean it up as you see fit. Leitmotiv (talk) 22:00, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

What is the world's biggest mushroom?[edit]

Shouldn't the article inform about that? I think so. __meco (talk) 18:25, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't believe so. Because I don't feel it adds much to the article. Also, it places too much emphasis on mushrooms being the living creature, when it is actually just the fruit of the fungus. They are a temporary creation of the fungus whose size can change dramatically from region to region, from la nina to el nino... etc. And you will get conflicting reports probably on the claim to whose mushroom is bigger. Maybe if this was a high school newspaper, I'd be right there with you. Leitmotiv (talk) 19:09, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
I don't feel this request is quite as trivial as you make it out as. Perhaps others think differently than you on this, other than me. In that case, I'd like them to voice their opinion. __meco (talk) 23:36, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
I think an entire section devoted to the biggest mushroom is not worthwhile, however, a section devoted to oddities like: biggest, smallest, strangest, etc., may be warranted and provide enough material for a separate section. Leitmotiv (talk) 00:10, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Citation for "Medicinal properties" section[edit]

The first sentence of the second paragraph in the Medicinal properties section says: "Historically, mushrooms have long been thought to hold medicinal value, especially in traditional Chinese medicine.[citation needed]"

The following citation is the most widely referenced English-language book for students, teachers and practitioners of traditional Chinese medical herbs. Mushrooms and fungi have been used in tonics and herbal prescriptions for thousands of years in China and are still used in modern practice:

^ Bensky, Dan and Gamble, Andrew. (1985). Chinese Herbal Medicine: Materia Medica. Eastland Press, Seattle, Washington. ISBN 0-939616-03-3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surfereric (talkcontribs) 18:55, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

References to be updated[edit]

The current reference for "Molds On Food: Are They Dangerous?" has changed url to:

http://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsis/topics/food-safety-education/get-answers/food-safety-fact-sheets/safe-food-handling/molds-on-food-are-they-dangerous_/CT_Index — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.116.189.149 (talk) 13:40, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks! Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 01:38, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Etymology of Toadstool[edit]

If nobody has any objection, I'd like to offer a rather different explanation of how and why "toadstool" became a word that referred particularly to toxic mushrooms, and the practice of using the A. muscaria to represent such mushrooms.

More specifically, in view of (1) the widespread practice of considering the A. muscaria the consummate example of a toadstool, (2) the fact that stool refers to an evacuation, or a place where an evacuation occurred, as well as to a chair; and (3) the striking resemblance a toad's eggs (like those depicted in the URL below) bears to an A. muscaria's primordium, (like those depicted in the URL further below), it is, imo, very possible that toadstool was coined to compare that primordium to a toad's eggs or evacuation, or even to identify that primordium as something that toads laid. However, because "stool" also referred to a seat, it was natural for people to consider a toadstool something a toad sat on, rather than something a toad evacuated.

Admittedly, this etymology is "original research." But, imo, it explains why people have traditionally referred to toxic mushrooms, particularly the A. muscaria, as toadstools, better than other etymologies, and it is reasonable and provocative enough to deserve consideration.


Frog's eggs: http://frogblogmanchester.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/prezi-eggs.jpg)

Primoridia: http://www.clinicalanthropology.com/Entheogens%20and%20the%20Development%20of%20Culture/Chapter%204%20-%20G%20Keizer%20/23.%20Primordia%20Fly%20Agaric.jpg)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Berlant (talkcontribs) 13:00, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Mushroom[edit]

Template:Aroy

Aroy is a common name of mushroom.Its the best in Meranau vegetable recipes.

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