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meter links to the unit of length[edit]

In the opening paragraph it mentions music is sometimes organized using meters, but then links to the unit of measurement instead of to the meter (music) page Ellynu (talk) 23:21, 16 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Now it links to Metre (music). Thanks! Just plain Bill (talk) 23:35, 16 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sound, the origin of music.[edit]

The origin of sound and its derivation towards music should have been placed first, since its derivation is not radical but one or several derivations starting from the first instrument that the human being creates to produce a sound that allows him to be heard at a greater distance than his voice and trying to copy the *birds. And that instrument(s) should have been a wind instrument, like a flute but with only one hole, as it was the easiest to make. And yet, with a single note but with different volume and tempo, songs could be made that were clearly differentiated from the sounds they knew. Later, holes were added and it was at that moment that a "primary musical scale" was created, very rudimentary but effective because it already had several differentiated notes. Given that there are several hypotheses about its origin (sexual, festive, religious...) and as they all have their meaning, I would add that the original sound that created the musical scale materialised in very diverse cultures and different forms, as tribes from New Guinea did not have contact with tribes from Canada or Australia and therefore there is no single point of its creation but an amalgam of situations in which its use was necessary for that specific society.

The use of birds as a means to imitate them is due to their very extensive scale of notes, times and distance of their sounds and their distribution in any part of the planet; this is not the case with the rest of the animals whose notes do not reach that sonic extreme (and even if there were some tribes that managed to imitate a howler monkey or an elephant, they would surely be in the minority with respect to the generalised use). According to current archaeological findings, Chinese music dates back more than 9,000 years, :

Chinese music dates back 9,000 years. The JiaHu bone flute excavated at the Jiahu site is between 9000 and 7500 years old. [1] Around 7,000 years ago, bone whistles and primitive pottery began to appear everywhere.

zh. wikipedia.org



Jcollmart (talk) 10:51, 5 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

All well and good, but without citing a reliable source, this looks like your own general speculation. Are you proposing a change to the article's text? Just plain Bill (talk) 18:58, 5 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Si, claro, el artículo debería ser cambiado. Por otra parte si las fuentes de Wikipedia no son fiables (puesto que Wikipedia no es una fuente fiable) ¿qué sentido tiene ponerlas?, pregunto. Jcollmart (talk) 15:52, 6 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Porque mis fuentes son la Wikipedia de Japón que deriva a Wikipedia de China: zh.wikipedia.org Jcollmart (talk) 15:54, 6 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This is the English-language Wikipedia; discussions should normally be conducted in English. Just plain Bill (talk) 16:23, 6 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, of course, the article should be changed. On the other hand, if Wikipedia's sources are not reliable (since Wikipedia is not a reliable source), what is the point of putting them, I ask? Because my sources are Japan's Wikipedia which derives from China's Wikipedia: zh.wikipedia.org Jcollmart (talk) 16:29, 6 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
We don't use other Wikipedias as sources, period. Please read WP:RS. OhNoitsJamie Talk 16:32, 6 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

REMA[edit]

Rema — Preceding unsigned comment added by 102.91.4.126 (talk) 16:32, 12 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Music of Zambia[edit]

Hello. I have noticed, that in section see also is link to article Music of Zambia. Please, why this link is here? I think, that It belongs to another articles, for example to article about various musical traditions. So, this link will be removed. Thank You for understanding. Cassa342 (talk) 16:55, 12 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]