Talk:Mystic massacre

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This article needs serious wikification. In particular, citation to sources and npov'ing. rewinn 01:51, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Looks like someone deleted the worst of the material. 21:04, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Genocides category[edit]

I'm not going to argue about whether it was or wasn't a genocide. The fact is that the article has a whole section of scholars debating that point, and as such, it deserves to be in a category related to genocide. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:34, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Ok, but we will be applying this policy to ALL organized, attempts that eliminate 800+ or 3-5,000 based on racial and national basis? I have had to have this debate in other articles when simply applying, peer reviewed academically respected multiple sources. With 3-5,000 people killed in 1804, in the course of two months eliminating the entire ethnic and national group of French creoles. Revenge doesn't de-genocide a legal framework. It is a charged word and personally the Jamestown massacre COULD be discussed as "genocide", however genocide requires specific intent, targeting of substantial parts...essentially theoretical intent, while we have other articles, that clearly demonstrate a crime of genocide in ANY standards related. This precedent SHOULD be reenforced. I am a genocide prevention activist, and try to decipher the gravity of genocide with modern times. I suggest the term "genocide" be avoided until the creation of the United States, (as the "Trail of Tears", and the Jamestown massacre of indians are clearly within the realm of the concept but not the legal framework. Ac220404 (talk) 02:30, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

I don't find your arguments persuasive, or even on topic. As far as I can tell, you have not even attempted to address the points raised by Themightyquill. This is not a discussion of the Jamestown massacre, it is not a discussion of any other article or topic. Dlabtot (talk) 04:41, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Mystic massacre/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Where is a citation of John Alden? The link on his name refers to two entirely different people. Should the name John Alden be removed?

Last edited at 19:55, 4 October 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 00:43, 30 April 2016 (UTC)