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non-member states with permanent mission at NATO[edit]

“Israel will be officially accredited to NATO, it will have a permanent mission at NATO headquarters as a partner.” http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-confirms-upgraded-nato-ties-as-turkey-said-to-end-veto/

how should the article be organized to include this news? Wikipaddn (talk) 06:30, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Criticism of NATO[edit]

I think a section of Criticism of NATO must be included in the article. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.25.238.87 (talk) 11:22, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

I second that. I came here in search of such a section, only to be disappointed. I would like to add information from this source. nationalinterest.org/blog/the-skeptics/it-time-america-quit-nato-15615 Benjamin (talk) 05:41, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

What makes that a reliable source, or a notable opinion article? Nick-D (talk) 08:12, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Well, it doesn't need to reliable if it's only talking about opinion. Perhaps some more reliable sources could be found for the facts and figures it mentions, but there certainly should be a criticism section. Also, it's notable because Donald Trump linked to it, so it's more than just an insignificant minority opinion. There should be other perspectives of course; this is just a start. Benjamin (talk) 06:34, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Also, The National Interest is overtly biased, but it seems fairly reliable. It is a professional magazine with a long history. Benjamin (talk) 06:41, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
For an opinion article to be quoted in a high level article like this, it should be a prominent article which has led to other commentary, news reports, etc or be written by a recognised expert on the topic. Nick-D (talk) 08:50, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Is there perhaps another article that would be more appropriate for this information? Benjamin (talk) 14:36, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Given that entire books have been written discussing NATO, they would be better sources than op-eds. Nick-D (talk) 22:46, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
I agree with the above comment, NATO is not an obscure topic, and there's plenty of mainstream, published commentary on the organization in research articles and widely available books. On the broader topic of this discussion, I have to come down hard against a separate "Criticism" section. I do not believe such a section here would be able to adhere to Wikipedia's encyclopedic standards, particularly on holding a neutral point of view. Such a section would also quickly become an indiscriminate collection of private opinions and poorly sourced conspiracy theories. This discussion has come up previously on this talk page, and the answer now as then is that critical viewpoints can and should be integrated into the existing sections. If say, you feel that the article glosses over civilian casualties in Libya, then propose a sourced addition to the Libya intervention subsection.-- Patrick, oѺ 15:57, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
I take issue with the idea that a criticism page is not neutral. Without such a page categorical criticisms have no place and that is, in fact, tacitly detrimenal to the notion of a neutral and balanced point of view. In fact, the Wikipedia pages on the UN, WTO, IMF and the World Bank, which are similar to NATO by being international treaties, all have criticism sections. BRICS, which is an alliance closely analagous to NATO has a "reception" section which might serve the purpose for this NATO page as well. 99.239.104.90 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:20, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Benjamin, I've just removed the material you just added given there wasn't support for it here, and it was presenting one person's opinion as a wide-ranging fact. I agree with Patrick's comments. There's been lots of commentary around NATO over the years, and the article should seek to do justice to it rather than include non-rigorously selected recent views. For instance, there were multiple major protest campaigns against (and for?) NATO throughout the Cold War and afterwards, and experts and national leaders have debated the benefits of the alliance and how it operates for generations now. Nick-D (talk) 09:01, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Funding[edit]

The article really needs a section on funding sources and budgetary outlays. I was really surprised it lacked this information. Coinmanj (talk) 22:07, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

DIY usually works best. Nick-D (talk) 08:13, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

NATO and War on Terrorism[edit]

I cant edit this page, but could someone add some information about NATO's response to 9/11 (Invoking Article 5, deployment of NATO AWACS to the United States Operation Eagle Assist, and ISAF and Resolute Support Mission Missions in Afghanistan) in the history section rather than just military operations? 24.192.250.124 (talk) 22:17, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Promise to not station foreign troops east[edit]

There is no document or treaty with a promise to not station "foreign" trips in eastern Europe. It should not be in the article. 167.160.116.12 (talk) 10:42, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

The following link is a response to the referenced article: Foreign Affairs - No such promise 167.160.116.12 (talk) 10:49, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

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