Talk:Nabi Salih

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vandalism[edit]

this should be reverted. nableezy - 13:51, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for spotting that, I restored the text. --Al Ameer son (talk) 02:42, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Victor Guérin[edit]

Oooch; for the Victor Guérin visit in 1863: there is only one copy of that book on archive.org (and none on google?)...and there is a mistake there: it misses pages 106 & 107! We will have to get a hard-copy to see what he said about Nabi Saleh, Cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:56, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I have uploaded p.106 and p.107. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:32, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

The "Samarie"-books of Guerin basically describes a journey he took in the summer of 1870. Alas, he travelled (and made notes) in the same area in 1863, so sometimes he "skips" villages and just insert the notes from 1863. Since he mentions "1863" on p.106... I understood it to mean that the description (  :, 'It owes its name to a figure of that name who is venerated there under a koubbeh partially constructed with regular stonework with an appearance of antiquity.' ) was from that year, am I wrong? Yeah, I realise there is nothing about this place on p 107; only on p. 105 and p.106. And it certainly sounds as if Guerin described the Shrine of Salih. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 21:02, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

The part immediately preceding that shrine description runs:'Having also visited it in 1863, this time round I avoided scaling the heights that crown it'. So the allusion here to the shrine was made on his second visit, recounted here, not on the 1863 trip. Cheers.Nishidani (talk) 07:44, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Ok, thanks! So what if one changed present wording to something like:
  • "The French explorer Victor Guérin visited the place twice in the 19th century. In 1863 he scaled the nearby height. In 1870 he noted that the place was named after a person who "is venerated there under a koubbeh partially constructed with regular stonework with an appearance of antiquity." He estimated that the village had 150 inhabitants."(ref: Guérin, 1875, pp. 105, 106.)
Would that be ok? Cheers, Huldra (talk) 13:36, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

B'Tselem[edit]

As far as I understand the discussion here, we can indeed use B'Tselem as a source, as long as we cite it to them. Which was done in the article. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 10:03, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

no, there are many other places discussing btselem - and they are not reliable unless quoted in RS. that is, if the ny times, haaretz, maan, someone RS says that btselem said 'x', otherwise, no. got it? Soosim (talk) 10:09, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
Links please, to the "many other places"? I searched Reliable_sources/Noticeboard, and this was what I found. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 10:20, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

description of Ahlam Tamimi[edit]

This is an article on the town, the link to the person and short description of why she is notable is sufficient. Per BRD I am removing it, and "new" accounts would do well to gain a consensus for changes instead of hit and run reverting. nableezy - 16:17, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Agreed. Zerotalk 16:21, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Very well. We can leave Mr. Ehrenreich's statement out. I figured that since Mr. Ehrenreich is pro-Palestinian in his writings and that the article was published in the New York Times, that it was relevant to this article. But simply linking Tamimi to the suicide bombing will suffice.(Hyperionsteel (talk) 17:09, 5 August 2013 (UTC))
The statement that was removed stated that Ahlam Tamimi was "much-loved in Nabi Saleh" and I saw that statement as relevant to the article on the town, because it is about the town's attitude towards her.
The sentence from the article: "Ahlam, who now lives in exile in Jordan, and Said, who is in prison in Israel, remain much-loved in Nabi Saleh."
WhisperToMe (talk) 17:53, 20 September 2013 (UTC)