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Contemporary Issues[edit]

FIRST AND FOREMOST: The issue of Berg-Karabach cannot be discussed as a simple border and economics issue. The circumstances of the Armenian genocide are the basis of the current situation. Turkey and Asebaijan had killed millions of Armenians in the early 20th century. Both states deny constantly that this genocide has happened, while ignoring the fact that both states took large areas from the former Armenian state and drove out and killed up to 2 or 3 million ethnic Armenians. Also, Aserbeijan has never admitted that a pogrom was tolerated in 1990, when about 100 Armenians where killed, many more raped and tortured.---This is the voice of truth against the Aserbeijan and Turkish lies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.20.173.21 (talk) 14:32, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

It has been some time since this article was last updated regarding the contemporary situation between Armenia and Azerbaijan in respects to the ongoing struggle over the Nagorno-Karabakh enclave. There has been many developments in the last few weeks. Given the recent statements by the president of the parliamentary assembly of the Organization of Security and Co-operation, it can be understood that the efforts to remedy the ongoing conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh are surely failing. Also in the past month there have been bilateral relations between the Azerbaijani parliament and the Moldovan parliament regarding the involvement of GUAM (Georgia, Ukraine, Azerbaijan and Moldova) as an influential party in the peace talks between Azerbaijan and Armenia over the Nagorno-Karabakh region. This source was particularly relevant to the Article on Wikipedia because if contained statements and facts regarding the contemporary issues in the Nagorno-Karabakh area that the Wikipedia article lacked. I was unable to find any relevant information to the current positions held by the government officials of Azerbaijan and Armenia nor the Organization of Security and Co-operation in Europe.

Aliyev, M. (September 23, 2012 Sunday ). President of OSCE Parliamentary Assembly: Minsk group's activity not satisfactory. Trend News Agency, Baku, Azerbaijan.


On the 9th of July 2012 the president and parliament of Azerbaijan made desperate requests to the Assembly on the Organization of Security and Co-operation in Europe to step up the efforts to settle the ongoing conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia. This request from Baku comes after a twenty year period of no results from the OSCE which has led to current frustrations. As peace talks continue to be held, the Secretary General of the OSCE has put forward several proposals that aim to remedy the situation in conjunction with upcoming elections in Azerbaijan. Despite these attempts to bring a level of progress and achievement to the peace talks, Armenia has yet to implement any of the resolutions on the liberation of the Nagorno-Karabakh enclave suggested by the U.N. Security Council. I recommend this source and others like it to anyone who refers to the Wikipedia article in regards to contemporary issues in the Nagorno-Karabakh area. Recent developments have transpired in the ongoing efforts to arrive at an acceptable resolution of peace which the Wikipedia article lacks in information.

Mehdiyev, E. (September 11, 2012 Tuesday ). Deputy parliamentary speaker: Azerbaijan attaches great importance to cooperation with OSCE. Trend News Agency, Baku, Azerbaijan.


The ongoing conflict and lack of resolution between Azerbaijan and Armenia over the Nagorno-Karabakh enclave brings about several critical issues regarding the regions security and foreign investment in the development of industry there. Economic and environmental rights are and have been lacking in the Nagorno-Karabakh region for the last few decades regardless of Azerbaijan’s twenty year membership in the OSCE. The OSCE Secretary General Lamberto Zannier recently stated his support for a peacefully negotiated resolution Between Azerbaijan, Armenia and the OSCE over the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. If a level of peace is not established, economic development will not take shape either. The ongoing war in the South Caucasus has deterred many foreign investors from entering the region. Azerbaijan and Armenia wish to develop their economies and the only way to bring this about would be through developing foreign confidence by refraining from any acts that would escalate the conflict between them. It is evident that peaceful negotiations are the only way to develop progress and a permanent peace in the region. This source is relevant to the Wikipedia article and I would recommend it because it provides information about the threat to security and economic development in the Nagorno-Karabakh region. The Wikipedia article lacked any information regarding the contemporary issue of economic development and security. I believe that this information would be a great help to anyone trying to understand what sort of progress and achievements are being attempted in the region.

M.Aliyev, (July 9, 2012 Monday ). OSCE Secretary General: Nagorno-Karabakh conflict poses enormous threat to region's security. Trend News Agency, Baku, Azerbaijan.

(Veggietotalitarian (talk) 05:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC))

Bias?[edit]

Speaking as one who knows the square-root of nothing about the Nagorno-Karabakh situation, I just get a gut feeling of some anti-Armenian bias in the "Contemporary situation (since 1994)" section. I've no reason to doubt that the facts quoted regarding "bad behaviour" by Armenia/Armenians are all true, but from what I know of conflicts in general it strikes me as highly unlikely that it's all "Armenia bad, Azerbaijan good," which is the impression you could get from reading this section. The problem is not with what is said, but perhaps with what is omitted. It would improve the usefulness and credibility of the section if someone with more time and knowledge than me could try and redress the balance a little. UrsusMaximus (talk) 10:03, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

What is Nakchivan separated from by Zangezur?[edit]

In the article, Zangezur is described as "the strip of land separating Nakhchivan from Armenia proper". Looking at maps, to me it seems Nakhchivan is not saparated from Armenia, but rather from Azerbaijan by Zangezur. Any objections?Redav (talk) 10:49, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 May 2016[edit]

Under Soviet Era article states: In April 1920, while the Azerbaijani army was locked in Karabakh fighting local Armenian forces, Azerbaijan was taken over by Bolsheviks.[40] On 10 August 1920, Armenia signed a preliminary agreement with the Bolsheviks, agreeing to a temporary Bolshevik occupation of these areas until final settlement would be reached.[54] In 1921, Armenia and Georgia were also taken over by the Bolsheviks who, in order to attract public support, promised they would allot Karabakh to Armenia, along with Nakhchivan and Zangezur (the strip of land separating Nakhchivan from Armenia proper)."

Suggestion: Replace "the strip of land separating Nakhchivan from Armenia proper" with "the strip of land separating Nakhchivan from Karabakh"

Explanation: The words "(the strip of land separating Nakhchivan from Armenia proper)" appear to be geographically inaccurate. Since Zangezur lies between Nakhchivan and Karabakh, the statement would be accurate if Karabakh was already part of Armenia, which according to the article at this point is under temporary occupation by Bolsheviks and is being promised to Armenia.


Amamedli (talk) 21:50, 18 May 201L6 (UTC)

Agreed; edit made. (And even if Karabakh were undisputedly part of Armenia at the time, Nakhchivan [presumably] already bordered Armenia to the north) --Golbez (talk) 03:35, 19 May 2016 (UTC)