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Contemporary Issues[edit]

FIRST AND FOREMOST: The issue of Berg-Karabach cannot be discussed as a simple border and economics issue. The circumstances of the Armenian genocide are the basis of the current situation. Turkey and Asebaijan had killed millions of Armenians in the early 20th century. Both states deny constantly that this genocide has happened, while ignoring the fact that both states took large areas from the former Armenian state and drove out and killed up to 2 or 3 million ethnic Armenians. Also, Aserbeijan has never admitted that a pogrom was tolerated in 1990, when about 100 Armenians where killed, many more raped and tortured.---This is the voice of truth against the Aserbeijan and Turkish lies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:32, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

It has been some time since this article was last updated regarding the contemporary situation between Armenia and Azerbaijan in respects to the ongoing struggle over the Nagorno-Karabakh enclave. There has been many developments in the last few weeks. Given the recent statements by the president of the parliamentary assembly of the Organization of Security and Co-operation, it can be understood that the efforts to remedy the ongoing conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh are surely failing. Also in the past month there have been bilateral relations between the Azerbaijani parliament and the Moldovan parliament regarding the involvement of GUAM (Georgia, Ukraine, Azerbaijan and Moldova) as an influential party in the peace talks between Azerbaijan and Armenia over the Nagorno-Karabakh region. This source was particularly relevant to the Article on Wikipedia because if contained statements and facts regarding the contemporary issues in the Nagorno-Karabakh area that the Wikipedia article lacked. I was unable to find any relevant information to the current positions held by the government officials of Azerbaijan and Armenia nor the Organization of Security and Co-operation in Europe.

Aliyev, M. (September 23, 2012 Sunday ). President of OSCE Parliamentary Assembly: Minsk group's activity not satisfactory. Trend News Agency, Baku, Azerbaijan.

On the 9th of July 2012 the president and parliament of Azerbaijan made desperate requests to the Assembly on the Organization of Security and Co-operation in Europe to step up the efforts to settle the ongoing conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia. This request from Baku comes after a twenty year period of no results from the OSCE which has led to current frustrations. As peace talks continue to be held, the Secretary General of the OSCE has put forward several proposals that aim to remedy the situation in conjunction with upcoming elections in Azerbaijan. Despite these attempts to bring a level of progress and achievement to the peace talks, Armenia has yet to implement any of the resolutions on the liberation of the Nagorno-Karabakh enclave suggested by the U.N. Security Council. I recommend this source and others like it to anyone who refers to the Wikipedia article in regards to contemporary issues in the Nagorno-Karabakh area. Recent developments have transpired in the ongoing efforts to arrive at an acceptable resolution of peace which the Wikipedia article lacks in information.

Mehdiyev, E. (September 11, 2012 Tuesday ). Deputy parliamentary speaker: Azerbaijan attaches great importance to cooperation with OSCE. Trend News Agency, Baku, Azerbaijan.

The ongoing conflict and lack of resolution between Azerbaijan and Armenia over the Nagorno-Karabakh enclave brings about several critical issues regarding the regions security and foreign investment in the development of industry there. Economic and environmental rights are and have been lacking in the Nagorno-Karabakh region for the last few decades regardless of Azerbaijan’s twenty year membership in the OSCE. The OSCE Secretary General Lamberto Zannier recently stated his support for a peacefully negotiated resolution Between Azerbaijan, Armenia and the OSCE over the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. If a level of peace is not established, economic development will not take shape either. The ongoing war in the South Caucasus has deterred many foreign investors from entering the region. Azerbaijan and Armenia wish to develop their economies and the only way to bring this about would be through developing foreign confidence by refraining from any acts that would escalate the conflict between them. It is evident that peaceful negotiations are the only way to develop progress and a permanent peace in the region. This source is relevant to the Wikipedia article and I would recommend it because it provides information about the threat to security and economic development in the Nagorno-Karabakh region. The Wikipedia article lacked any information regarding the contemporary issue of economic development and security. I believe that this information would be a great help to anyone trying to understand what sort of progress and achievements are being attempted in the region.

M.Aliyev, (July 9, 2012 Monday ). OSCE Secretary General: Nagorno-Karabakh conflict poses enormous threat to region's security. Trend News Agency, Baku, Azerbaijan.

(Veggietotalitarian (talk) 05:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC))

"Unrecognized state" (sic)[edit]

Please make this discussion at the TP of the article about that unrecognized entity, not here. --E4024 (talk) 18:56, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

I agree, this article is about the geographic and historical region, not the political entity. --Grandmaster 19:16, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
I have no idea what that means. This is a composite article that mostly discusses political history of the region. Sprutt (talk) 19:30, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Nagorny Karabakh IS NOT an "internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan" as your article pretend backed by notorious Azerbaijani commentors. The references made under that allegation do not actually contain appropriate provisions.

For instance, the Statement of the Co-Chairs of the OSCE Minsk Group [1] declares that the Group members "do not recognize the independence of NK" only, which can't be interpreted as recognition of NK being a part of its neighbouring Azerbaijan. I.e., if one doesn't recognize the Antartics independent, it can't be interpreted as a recognition of Antarctics being a part of Australia, Argentina or whatever neighbouring country else. (talk) 12:02, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Any reliable sources to support your claims? Brandmeistertalk 18:07, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Removal of tons of sourced statements[edit]

Some editors are here on a deleting spree of sourced ledes, alinea's and statements fueled by WP:JDL, brining arguments such as "dubious sources" and "removed because IP editor". This is unacceptable. Bring it to the talk page, or put citation needed templates at the parts you think that are not correct. - (talk) 20:31, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

What is unacceptable is rv base on "This is insane" attitude. The sources used are unreliable, as explained. Web sources such as are unreliable and are just replete controversial statements, such as "In ancient times Karabakh was populated by Caucasian tribesmen who spoke a Lezgic language." Zimmarod (talk) 10:49, 25 December 2014 (UTC)


Speaking as one who knows the square-root of nothing about the Nagorno-Karabakh situation, I just get a gut feeling of some anti-Armenian bias in the "Contemporary situation (since 1994)" section. I've no reason to doubt that the facts quoted regarding "bad behaviour" by Armenia/Armenians are all true, but from what I know of conflicts in general it strikes me as highly unlikely that it's all "Armenia bad, Azerbaijan good," which is the impression you could get from reading this section. The problem is not with what is said, but perhaps with what is omitted. It would improve the usefulness and credibility of the section if someone with more time and knowledge than me could try and redress the balance a little. UrsusMaximus (talk) 10:03, 6 August 2015 (UTC)