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Naïve & Naive
Naive (without the dieresis) is actually the standard spelling, while naïve (with the dieresis above the 'i') is the variant form. Below are just some of the sources that give naive as the standard and main entry: Merriam-Webster Dictionary , The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition , Random House Unabridged Dictionary , WordNet® 3.0 , Online Etymology Dictionary , Encarta World English Dictionary 
Here is the entry in Garner's Modern American Usage (by Bryan A. Garner), which is considered an authority on grammar, usage and style of the English language: "naive; naïve; naif; naïf. The standard adjective is naive (without a diaeresis), the standard noun naif (again, no diaeresis). The others are variant forms..."
I have requested to move the article from Naïve to Naive. Kman543210 (talk) 22:07, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
@Kman543210 Quoting a verifiably rubbish American dictionary lends absolutely no credence to your statement that Naive is the "standard spelling". It's actually quite laughable that anyone would think so. The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language ???? Hahaha, how respectable. Basically your only defence of naive being the standard spelling is that current American simplicity seems to suggest so. It's a shame that your idiocy has infiltrated the article.
I dunno about the spelling though. Many fo those sources where US english, and while yes they are correct in the US, they may be incorrect in UK/International english. I haven't checked (too lazy) but if they are correct in UK english then they are technically allowed to stay under the wikipedia rules which states that either UK or US english may be used. Maybe it shoudl be investigated and both spellings explained.
EDIT: Ok just checked the Cambridge dictionary, both are acceptable. By wikipedia rules it can stay right, btu I do think some mention of both spellings should be included. I think in Australia the correct spelling is naïve but then again many dictionaries have mixed messages about it. I was always taught to use the ï. Anyway, they probably should be both mentioned184.108.40.206 (talk) 03:39, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
It looks like naïve definitely was the standard form but has become a variant as a result of uninformed attempts to Anglicise and modernise as well as the fact that the typewriter and computer keyboards have made it cumbersome to include the diaeresis.--N Vale (talk) 15:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
- The Oxford English Dictionary indicates both spellings were in use in the 17th century. It's unclear in most early contexts whether writers takes themselves to be using a French word in an English sentence, or using an English word that has a French ancestor. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 18:34, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
another use of the word
To be naïve is to be virginal, unaffected, unselfconsciously artless ... in short: ingenuous. Naiveté is a much-maligned word, having the common assumption that it implies gullibility. Nevertheless, to be naïve means to be simple and unsophisticated.
http://actualfreedom.com.au/library/topics/naivete.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 04:33, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
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From the move discussion:
This is a particularly important and subtle cluster of concepts, and therefore the article at naive is an important article that should be expanded. Applications to naive set theory, folk psychology (aka naive psychology), theology in the work of Paul Ricoeur following the work in philosophy of Edmund Husserl and others, all should be mentioned. Andrewa (talk) 18:01, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Another requested move
use in medicine: anybody know exact definition
"Naive" (or "naïve," for you diaeresis fans out there) can also be used in reference to drugs or classes of drugs. For example, an individual may be described as "opioid-naive" (or "opioid-naïve"). I'm not sure what the precise meaning is: (1) that the person has never taken opioids (pr whatever type of drug) or (2) that s/he does not have any tolerance to them. Does anybody out there know, and if so, may I suggest adding a section on this use of the word "naïve?" (Pretty please with sugar?) Mia229 (talk) 08:53, 4 November 2013 (UTC)