Talk:National Coming Out Day

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How can National Coming Out Day be an "internationally-observed" event? -- 12.116.162.162 18:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes? Internationally observed by whom? --204.154.114.192 19:58, 11 October 2007 (UTC)Trav

Both of these concerns were addressed in the article at some time after they were posted. The day was originally a national event and was adopted in a number of other countries.mujerado (talk) 03:55, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

I believe this is the US form of a National. But, I agree that someone should check on this.. Also, adding National (US) could be helpful for our foreign english speakers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Morwenedhelwen (talkcontribs) 15:08, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Comment[edit]

I think the link An article addressing concerns regarding National Coming-Out Day should be removed as it contains a biased view of a single individual, which I don't really think anyone cares about. -- Someone who doesn't care.

UK[edit]

I'm not sure why it was removed but the date for "National Coming Out Day" in the United Kingdom has always been October 12th so I hope no one minds if I make reference to this in the article.

Just to confirm that it is in fact observed on October 12th in the UK and to clear up the current confusion see:

http://www.gaydarnation.com/UserPortal/Article/Detail.aspx?ID=22445&sid=253 http://equality-network.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=1168 http://www.queeryouth.org.uk/community/index.php?&act=Events&CODE=25&e_id=281 http://www.ladslads.com/blogs/view/2008/October/east/as_uk_national_coming_out_day_12_october_uk/131517 http://www.comeout.org.uk

--Spacepostman (talk) 20:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

dead link[edit]

The "Coming Out 101" link http://www.comingout101.com/ is dead. --Triptenator (talk) 18:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Good catch, I removed it. -- Banjeboi 23:55, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

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Is there a reason the logo for coming out day is a picture of someone with a limp wrist doing a can-can out of a closet? Was that the maximum number of gay stereotypes they could fit into one logo? 98.229.88.151 (talk) 13:09, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
The logo was designed by gay artist Keith Haring for advertising the first National Coming Out Day; its use on posters, button, t-shirts and other items in the years since have made it the de facto logo. If you head to his page, you will see that it is very much in line with his distinctive style. But now that you mention it, we can probably pad the article a bit by giving information about the logo. TechBear | Talk | Contributions 13:45, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Founders[edit]

There is a dispute as to whether William Gamble was a co-founder of NCOD. Honey Ward avers that Eichberg and O'Leary were the only co-founders. Gamble's name was added to the co-founders recently and as she reviewed the page before the annual commemoration in 2010, she asked me to remove the reference to Gamble. I've created this new section so she can state her evidence. Tonyfv (talk) 04:47, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Honey Ward - I was a close friend and colleague of Eichberg's from 1979 until his death in 1995. Through our work as facilitators of The Experience workshops, the notion of a day on which all LGBT people would come out had been presented for many years.

It wasn't until the "War Conference" (a national gathering of gay leaders), which followed the 1987 March on Washington, that the idea took form. Rob and Jean went to the microphone at the conference in Virginia and agreed to take responsibility for creating a National Coming Out Day on behalf of their organizations (The Experience and National Gay Rights Advocates).

Mr. Gamble is unknown to those who were in close relationship to Rob Eichberg, including myself and his mother, Shirley Eichberg Greenes. Shirley managed her son's business affairs; she and I both spoke with Rob on a daily basis about personal and professional matters both before and after the founding of NCOD.

The following links accurately cite the founders of National Coming Out Day, Dr. Rob Eichberg and Jean O'Leary:

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/08/15/obituaries/robert-eichberg-50-gay-rights-leader.html http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19950814&slug=2136369 http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/07/national/07oleary.html http://www.sgn.org/sgnnews23/page17.cfm Honeyward (talk) 19:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC)


Honey Ward —Preceding unsigned comment added by Honeyward (talkcontribs) 05:38, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Providing verifiable sources and writing the article based on that information is the way to go here. Please do not paste copyrighted text from other websites, instead, write in your own words and be sure to include the sources you are using to verify the information (see WP:CITE for information on how to cite your sources on Wikipedia). You may also wish to review the policy that explains what kinds of sources are appropriate, for example, blogs are generally not usable whereas newspaper articles are almost always appropriate - you can read this entire policy at WP:RS. Shell babelfish 14:48, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
I've updated the history a bit to reflect the information in the references provided. The co-founders are sourced to the obituaries in the NY and Seattle Times; the bulk of the history is sourced to the Human Rights Campaign's website - it would be good if we could find some additional references rather than rely on one source for the bulk of the article. Feel free to edit, change, make it sound better - just be careful of the bits inside the <ref> tags (this is what causes the numbers with links to the references to show up). And if you have any other questions about Wikipedia or adding to articles, I'd be happy to answer them. Shell babelfish 17:56, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

It's today[edit]

I don't know how to do so, but can come nice wikiperson make this page protected for today? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.240.77.184 (talk) 07:06, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

I just undid two ridiculous attacks of vandalism on the opening paragraph. There must be a way to hyper-protect a page that is the target of the hate of others. Lapisphil (talk) 07:17, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

I've requested a semi-protect for 24 hours. TechBear | Talk | Contributions 11:48, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Name of the article[edit]

This day is Internationally celebrated day. But it is mentioned as National Coming Out Day. Shouldn't it be International Coming Out Day or just Coming Out Day. I don't think National Coming Out Day is a suitable one or correct. What do you think? -KrozanDarshandhari (talk) 03:12, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Haring image[edit]

Personally, I'm thrilled that Keith Haring's NCOD image remains the featured image on this article, for my own reasons. But we could provide a little more information on the image itself. This page provides more info, including the date of creation (1988) and a much higher resolution image. Can this information be updated on the main page or is it out of place? I, for one, would like it alongside the picture's information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.228.84.66 (talk) 05:54, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Non-inclusive language[edit]

This article keeps making reference to "gay and lesbian" despite presenting the holiday as an LGBT event, which excludes bisexuals and other non-monosexuals, as well as trans people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.96.162.224 (talk) 07:36, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

More recent sources needed[edit]

I've added a couple of sources to evidence the international dimension of this day; a very quick Google search turned up very little in the way of reliable sources from outside America more recent than 2013, and one (The Irish Examiner, from this year) looks to have garnered its info from this very article. If anyone can update it with something more contemporary that would be great. ~ Maltrópa loquace 23:42, 11 October 2017 (UTC)