Talk:National Popular Vote Interstate Compact
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NPV was just passed in New York Legislature, currently awaiting governor's signature. We'll need to rework the cartograms and graphs within a day or two. Greg Comlish (talk) 01:29, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
PS. Why is Louisiana in the table of past legislative activity? I thought we agreed that past activity was not considered notable unless at least one statehouse passed the NPV. Greg Comlish (talk) 01:29, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
- The current description: "The table below lists the status of past bills that received a floor vote in at least one chamber of the state's legislature". I guess it counts if it made it to the floor and failed.
- Also, can you provide a source or two showing that the governor signed it? If so, the legislative history would need an update. Abstractematics (talk) 02:22, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- Gov. Cuomo has taken no action on the bill.RRichie (talk) 06:35, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- The ten days (not counting Sundays) appear to be up. Does that mean the bill is law now? KarlFrei (talk) 09:26, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
- ...Can it be true that the bill has not even been delivered to the governor yet?? The bill status does not mention "delivered to governor", in contrast to some other passed bills! KarlFrei (talk) 09:48, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
3 states have 2014 bills that aren't mentioned /
Examples from the NCSL database. Note that the Maine bill this week passed the state senate on 1st reading.
- Wow, I sure wish I had known about that website five years ago.... KarlFrei (talk) 09:51, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
MAINE ME S 201 / LD 511  2014 National Popular Vote for President Status: Pending - Joint Committee on Veterans and Legal Affairs Author: Woodbury (I) Topics: Electoral College-National Popular Vote Summary: Proposes to adopt the interstate compact that is the agreement among the states to elect the President of the United States by national popular vote. Under the compact and the bill, the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states and the District of Columbia will win the presidency. Under this bill, all of the state's electoral votes would be awarded to the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. History: Click for History 02/19/2013 - INTRODUCED. 02/19/2013 - Filed as LR 1605. 02/19/2013 - SENATE refers to JOINT Committee on VETERANS AND LEGAL AFFAIRS. 02/19/2013 - HOUSE refers to JOINT Committee on VETERANS AND LEGAL AFFAIRS in concurrence. 07/09/2013 - 126th Legislature -- First Regular Session Adjourned - 07/10/13 - Carried Over to Next Session. 02/27/2014 - From JOINT Committee on VETERANS AND LEGAL AFFAIRS: with divided report. 03/04/2014 - HOUSE commits to JOINT Committee on VETERANS AND LEGAL AFFAIRS. 03/05/2014 - HOUSE refers to JOINT Committee on VETERANS AND LEGAL AFFAIRS in concurrence.
MICHIGAN MI S 291 2014 Presidential Elections Status: Pending - Senate Local Government and Elections Committee Date of Last Action:* 4/10/2013 Author: Warren (D) Topics: Electoral College-National Popular Vote Summary: Enters into the interstate compact to elect the president by national popular vote, for related purposes. History: Click for History 04/10/2013 - INTRODUCED. 04/10/2013 - To SENATE Committee on LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND ELECTIONS.
PENNSYLVANIA PA H 1182 2014 Presidential Elect by National Popular Vote Status: Pending - House State Government Committee Date of Last Action:* 4/15/2013 Author: Cohen (D) Additional Authors: Caltagirone (D);Fleck (R);Gibbons (D);Pashinski (D);Swanger (R);Boyle B (D);Brown V (D);Davis (D);Flynn (D);Parker (D);Wheatley (D);Goodman (D);Dermody (D);Hanna (D);Mundy (D);Roebuck (D);Sturla (D);Thomas (D);Vitali (D);Waters (D);Painter (D) Topics: Electoral College-National Popular Vote Summary: Authorizes the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania to join the Agreement Among the States to Elect the President by National Popular Vote, provides for the form of the agreement.
Where did the progress of the current bills go?
The title is still there, but the table that showed the status of the various current bills is gone. I like to check this article daily to see if a bill is making any progress and now I can't. Just wondering where the table went is all.
- Unfortunately, it went all the way to the bottom of the article!! However, in the source code it still appears in the correct place, so I have no idea what to do to fix this :-( Is there some tech support available? Does anyone know? KarlFrei (talk) 10:21, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
I have the same problem, I can see the info when I edit the section, but it is otherwise invisible in the main article. Can it be some minor coding issue (like someone forgetting to open/close a certain bracket)? [[[User:DaemonischEngel|DaemonischEngel]] (talk) 11:38, 4 April 2014 (UTC)]
- Almost! It turns out that there was a missing return (newline) character at the end of the table. Fixed and promoted as you suggested in your other comment. KarlFrei (talk) 19:55, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
I understand that, as soon as states representing a majority (270) of the electoral votes ratify it it goes into effect, but in such a case, is the compact permanently in effect, or only as long as the states accepting it represent a majority? For example, let's say that at some point, the states adopting it represent exactly 270 electors, so it goes into effect. However, in the next reapportionment, those states collectively lose, say, two electors, so that those states now have only 268 electors, would the compact continue in effect or would it stop working? Also, what if a state withdrew from the compact causing the number of electors to drop below the majority? Admittedly, these probably aren't practical concerns, as it's unlikely that state ratifications of the compact would stop right at the point of just barely being a majority, but does the compact address those possibilities? XinaNicole (talk) 22:58, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, it does. The text of the compact is actually linked to in the article. The last line of Article III says it all: "This article shall govern the appointment of presidential electors in each member state in any year in which this agreement is, on July 20, in effect in states cumulatively possessing a majority of the electoral votes." KarlFrei (talk) 09:21, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
Several bins have been introduced this year, some to introduce the NPVIC, some to repeal it:
In total 9 states. It would be nice if somebody with more free time than me could update the article (including the figure at the top!) and put in a new table with current bills. KarlFrei (talk) 15:01, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link, that's very helpful. I found 13 bills: 6 failed (including OK and OR which are still shown as pending in the link), 2 pending in MI and MN to introduce the compact, 3 pending in MA and NJ to repeal it, and 2 pending in NY to make it permanent (did NY adopt it with an expiration date?). I added MI and MN to the article, including the map. Heitordp (talk) 13:11, 21 July 2015 (UTC)