Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Minnesota

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Demolished[edit]

List here lost properties that have been confirmed from a published source. These should be reported to the Minnesota Historical Society for delisting.

Confirmed via site visit by Mllwydmn on 18 Oct 2014. --McGhiever (talk) 04:46, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
This building was demolished in January 2013 (I found the reason in this copy of an article from the Pope County Tribune). SHPO's NRHP contact person was previously tipped off that it had been recently demolished, though the article was a bonus for them. I was fooled because, as it was so recent, the building appears right on the corner in Google/Bing sat maps. --Bobak (talk) 03:40, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Possibly demolished[edit]

List here properties which seem to be lost, but lack a citation confirming that they've been demolished.

Appears to be nothing at the site; the file at SHPO had been pulled so I could not confirm with the site map, however I have let the state's NRHP person know about its possible status. --Bobak (talk) 16:26, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Can't find in aerial or street view imagery. -McGhiever (talk) 17:13, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
This one is not where it's supposed to be; I confirmed it with the site plan (where they mark it on a map) in its file at SHPO. --Bobak (talk) 16:26, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Only foundation visible in satellite imagery
Appears demolished per site visit in Jul 2013. -McGhiever (talk) 17:13, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Coordinates correct per nomination file. Satellite imagery shows an empty lot. The SHPO file included photos from 2001 in which the barn was missing its roof. -McGhiever (talk) 03:33, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
This one is definitively demolished. I did some initial scouting via Google Maps/Satellite/Street (nothing looked like what is described in Mary Ann Nord's book, but there were buildings in the area) so I double checked with Bing's "Bird's Eye View" and that's where I found definite proof of its: If you rotate the Bird's Eye view (direct link here), in half of the views (East/West) there is a building present at the site, but in the other half (North/South), it's gone. Be sure to hit the "rotate map" arrow-buttons on either side of the compass at the top right of the map window. You'll see a marked building disappear and reappear depending on the view. I confirmed it with the file at SHPO, that was the building on the site map and the slide images. --Bobak (talk) 16:26, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Dropped by site on April 15, 2013, became suspicious is either gone or is actually next door. Cross-checking at SHPO on April 16, 2013; the c. 1860 house is not anywhere in the area it's supposed to be. Safe to presume demolished. --Bobak (talk) 16:56, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
Dropped by site on April 15, 2013, thought I may have found it and took some photos of a very unique structure. Cross-checking at SHPO on April 16, 2013; the fairly typical period house is not at the site (waterfront condos are) and it is safe to presume demolished. --Bobak (talk) 17:09, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
Noted as demolished by an anonymous editor, corroborated via site visit in Oct 2012. -McGhiever (talk) 17:13, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Appears in Bing Bird's Eye view with noticeably deteriorated roof; empty lot in Bing and Google top-down views. -McGhiever (talk) 22:24, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Drove through whole town and could not find. A letter in the property's SHPO file from a few years ago claimed it was still standing but in poor condition; likely demolished since. -McGhiever (talk) 16:15, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Dow Hall demolished and marked with a memorial; no evidence of Blind Department Building
Can't find in aerial views (see photo); presumably on the grounds of the Minnesota Correctional Facility – Faribault, which precludes an in-person search.-McGhiever (talk) 04:32, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Modern bridges (confirmed in site visit Oct 2012) occupy locations confirmed from SHPO files. -McGhiever (talk) 03:19, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
All but one building of 10-contributing-property complex appears demolished in Google & Bing Maps.
This one is gone. I visited the site and then confirmed with the file at SHPO that is simply isn't there anymore. --Bobak (talk) 16:30, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Location seems accurate per description in nomination form. Nothing visible in satellite imagery, plus this upload to Panoramio from a searcher in 2011.

Coordinates unverified[edit]

Besides the three sections above, these are the only properties whose coordinates I am less than 99% sure of. In 2012 and 2013 I fine-tuned the coordinates for every MN NRHP listing to be spot-on. These remaining properties are probably correct but have resisted confirmation through aerial or street view imagery. -McGhiever (talk) 17:13, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Other issues[edit]

Use this section to list issues that don't fit in any other category.

Confirmed what happened to it: In 1984 it was moved to Lake Washington County Park for use as a pedestrian bridge. The move was never "pre-approved" for the move as per NRHP procedures (documentation, approval by State Review Board, approval by the Keeper), and it was apparently automatically removed by the Register--though SHPO continues to show it as listed, at the old location; and the state bridge plan shows it as listed, at the new location. According to a January 11, 2011 by Dennis Gimmestead (Cultural Resources Unit, Office of Environmental Services, MNDot) it needs a new nomination to re-list. --Bobak (talk) 17:24, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Not publicly accessible[edit]

Add to this section any properties that are difficult or impossible for regular contributors to photograph clearly. This will help other photographers know which sites are largely hopeless, while pinpointing which properties to request an image donation for from institutions like the Minnesota Historical Society.

Lost delistings needing photo[edit]

These properties were delisted due to loss from demolition, fire, etc. They remain in need of a photograph, which could be solicited from a historical society or other institutional donation.

There are two Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific Railroad Depot (Dakota County, Minnesota), although only one that's listed is a former NRHP site. So if you people don't mind, I'm going to split that redlink between Farmington and Hastings. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 17:59, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Possibly standing delistings needing coordinates[edit]

These properties were delisted because they were moved or altered, compromising their historical integrity. They may still be standing but their current locations are unknown. It may be useful to add their current coordinates and possibly a current photograph.

Address restricted[edit]

Some properties, particularly archaeological sites, are listed by the NRHP as "Address restricted" to protect them from looting or vandalism. There is a placeholder image used for these in county lists, but it may be possible to acquire specific images for some of these listings (for example, from a historical society or the Institute for Minnesota Archaeology, artifacts from the site now in a museum, or a historical marker). Moreover some sites are more publicly accessible than the NRHP listing suggests (marked with interpretive signage in a park, for example) and could be given coordinates and a site photo.

Willard Bunnell House (Winona County)[edit]

I shifted the Willard Bunnell House link from Winona to Homer, because the house is actually in Homer, which borders Winona. I am gathering solid material now toward creating the Bunnell House article very soon. Hurrmic (talk) 14:42, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Draft tally table of MN RHPs by county[edit]

Drafting at National Register of Historic Places listings in Minnesota\temp...if this turns out okay i would like to insert it into this list-article, as has been done for some other state RHP lists. This main list-article is a bit large, currently. If the remaining 20 or so small counties were table-ized, it would be too large. Is it okay if i move out to separate pages, some of the remaining larger counties? doncram (talk) 23:42, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

I moved out the remaining counties that had 20 or more listings. A couple with 19 already were split out. Still too big. Need to split out all others with more than 15 listings, and then perhaps those having exactly 15 listings, i think. doncram (talk) 01:26, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Multiple Property Submissions etc.[edit]

I added section to list all Multiple Property Submission, MRA, and TR studies for NRHP eligibility for the state. Thanks Elkman for providing generator to make that list easily! Does this add to the list-article sufficiently to develop it? I personally think each of the MRA documents should justify an article.... doncram (talk) 05:25, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I made this list for Florida. Might something like it work here? --Ebyabe (talk) 20:48, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Many of Minnesota's listings on the NRHP are described in the following Multiple Property Submissions, Multiple Resource Area, or Thematic Resources studies. Briefly i thot these were all wikipedia notable, but probably they are not all notable that way. Removed them from the main article. For each there is a NRHP document available on-line. These can be used, at least, to develop articles on the NRHPs. Anyhow, the list of MPSs etc, is:

Navigation aid[edit]

Doncram added statement on where to find the entries for Minneapolis and Saint Paul. This should help many readers, especially those who don't know the state's largest city is in Hennepin County and the Capitol is in Ramsey. Another editor has removed it on the grounds of inconsistency. I think the benefit to the reader of being able to quickly find the Twin Cities in the long list outweighs inconsistency, particularly since so many listings are there. Jonathunder (talk) 15:20, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

This seems more than reasonable to me and, fwiw, there's precedent for this type of thing in the New Jersey and Delaware lists (there may be others, but those are two of which I'm aware). --sanfranman59 (talk) 01:59, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Splitting out counties with 10 and 9 sites[edit]

Due to the slow page-loading for this list, built up by more photos being added all the time, i think it's necessary now to split out more of the counties. That is, to create separate articles for Aitkin 10, Dodge 10, Lac Qui Parle 10, Mower 10, Nobles 10, Waseca 10, Big Stone 9, and Isanti 9 counties. Hope that is okay. --doncram (talk) 19:55, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

References[edit]

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  10. ^ Per address given in MHS NRHP database
  11. ^ "Great archeological 'dig' right in Grand Meadow's backyard". Meadow Area News. 2007-11-07. Retrieved 2013-09-06.