Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Minnesota
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- 1 Demolished
- 2 Possibly demolished
- 3 Coordinates unverified
- 4 Other issues
- 5 Not publicly accessible
- 6 Lost delistings needing photo
- 7 Possibly standing delistings needing coordinates
- 8 Address restricted
- 9 Willard Bunnell House (Winona County)
- 10 Draft tally table of MN RHPs by county
- 11 Multiple Property Submissions etc.
- 12 Navigation aid
- 13 Splitting out counties with 10 and 9 sites
- 14 References
List here lost properties that have been confirmed from a published source. These should be reported to the Minnesota Historical Society for delisting.
- Big Stone
- This building was demolished in January 2013 (I found the reason in this copy of an article from the Pope County Tribune). SHPO's NRHP contact person was previously tipped off that it had been recently demolished, though the article was a bonus for them. I was fooled because, as it was so recent, the building appears right on the corner in Google/Bing sat maps. --Bobak (talk) 03:40, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
List here properties which seem to be lost, but lack a citation confirming that they've been demolished.
- Only foundation visible in satellite imagery
- This one is definitively demolished. I did some initial scouting via Google Maps/Satellite/Street (nothing looked like what is described in Mary Ann Nord's book, but there were buildings in the area) so I double checked with Bing's "Bird's Eye View" and that's where I found definite proof of its: If you rotate the Bird's Eye view (direct link here), in half of the views (East/West) there is a building present at the site, but in the other half (North/South), it's gone. Be sure to hit the "rotate map" arrow-buttons on either side of the compass at the top right of the map window. You'll see a marked building disappear and reappear depending on the view. I confirmed it with the file at SHPO, that was the building on the site map and the slide images. --Bobak (talk) 16:26, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
- Dropped by site on April 15, 2013, thought I may have found it and took some photos of a very unique structure. Cross-checking at SHPO on April 16, 2013; the fairly typical period house is not at the site (waterfront condos are) and it is safe to presume demolished. --Bobak (talk) 17:09, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
- Dow Hall demolished and marked with a memorial; no evidence of Blind Department Building
- All but one building of 10-contributing-property complex appears demolished in Google & Bing Maps.
- Location seems accurate per description in nomination form. Nothing visible in satellite imagery, plus this upload to Panoramio from a searcher in 2011.
Besides the three sections above, these are the only properties whose coordinates I am less than 99% sure of. In 2012 and 2013 I fine-tuned the coordinates for every MN NRHP listing to be spot-on. These remaining properties are probably correct but have resisted confirmation through aerial or street view imagery. -McGhiever (talk) 17:13, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- Otter Tail
- St. Louis
Use this section to list issues that don't fit in any other category.
- Big Stone
- Adams H. Bullis House—Why listed as "Address restricted"?
- Le Sueur
- Confirmed what happened to it: In 1984 it was moved to Lake Washington County Park for use as a pedestrian bridge. The move was never "pre-approved" for the move as per NRHP procedures (documentation, approval by State Review Board, approval by the Keeper), and it was apparently automatically removed by the Register--though SHPO continues to show it as listed, at the old location; and the state bridge plan shows it as listed, at the new location. According to a January 11, 2011 by Dennis Gimmestead (Cultural Resources Unit, Office of Environmental Services, MNDot) it needs a new nomination to re-list. --Bobak (talk) 17:24, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
- Siemer Silo and Barn—Silo is gone (per site visit Oct 2012)
- Otter Tail
- Laura Baker School—Exterior completely modified
- Wencl Kajer Farmstead–Round barn gone (per Google & Bing Maps)
Not publicly accessible
Add to this section any properties that are difficult or impossible for regular contributors to photograph clearly. This will help other photographers know which sites are largely hopeless, while pinpointing which properties to request an image donation for from institutions like the Minnesota Historical Society.
- Randolph M. Probstfield House (screened by trees)
- Daniel Dayton House (out of sight on large private parcel)
- Lake of the Woods
- Northwest Point (remote private property on international boundary)
- Foss and Wells House (screened by trees)
- St. Louis
Lost delistings needing photo
These properties were delisted due to loss from demolition, fire, etc. They remain in need of a photograph, which could be solicited from a historical society or other institutional donation.
- Big Stone
- Blue Earth
- Lac qui Parle
- Lake of the Woods
- Le Sueur
- St. Louis
- There are two Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific Railroad Depot (Dakota County, Minnesota), although only one that's listed is a former NRHP site. So if you people don't mind, I'm going to split that redlink between Farmington and Hastings. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 17:59, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Possibly standing delistings needing coordinates
These properties were delisted because they were moved or altered, compromising their historical integrity. They may still be standing but their current locations are unknown. It may be useful to add their current coordinates and possibly a current photograph.
- Blue Earth
- Andrew Holterman House–Moved in the 1990s.
- Clough Township Hall–Moved in 2001.
- Otter Tail
- Christianson House and Store–Moved in 1981.
- Catholic Church of the Sacred Heart (Holdingford, Minnesota)–Moved in 1989.
- First Congregational Parsonage–Moved in 1987.
Some properties, particularly archaeological sites, are listed by the NRHP as "Address restricted" to protect them from looting or vandalism. There is a placeholder image used for these in county lists, but it may be possible to acquire specific images for some of these listings (for example, from a historical society or the Institute for Minnesota Archaeology, artifacts from the site now in a museum, or a historical marker). Moreover some sites are more publicly accessible than the NRHP listing suggests (marked with interpretive signage in a park, for example) and could be given coordinates and a site photo.
- Posch Site (21BN3)
- Chippewa Agency Historic District
- Gull Lake Mounds Site (21CA37)
- "There is some archaeological interpretation in the Gull Lake Dam Recreation Area visitor's center"
- 46°24'43.29"N 94°21'4.79"W -Whittaker, Timothy. American Indian Mounds 1.0
- Hole-in-the-Day House Site
- Old Backus
- Rice Lake Hut Rings
- South Pike Bay Site (21CA38)
- South Pike Bay Campground, Chippewa National Forest
- Fowl Lake Site (21CK1)
- Crow Wing
- Fort Flatmouth Mounds
- Gordon-Schaust Site (21CW83)
- "Two separate linear mound groups which lie almost parallel to each other. Located in a wildlife sanctuary on the south end of Cross Lake. N.E. 1/4 of Sec. 32-137-27." However, possibly based on configuration of roads in map on pg. 62 of [www.osa.admin.state.mn.us/documents/LiDARreportEdited.pdf Archaeological Prospection for Precontact Burial Mounds Using Light Detection and Ranging (LiDAR) in Scott and Crow Wing Counties, Minnesota], which doesn't look like a wildlife sanctuary. -McGhiever (talk) 19:49, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
- Sebre Lake Site (21-CW-55)
- St. Columba Mission Site
- Upper Hay Lake Archeological District (21CW14)
- Basswood Shores Site (21DL90)
- Robertson Park Site (21JK16)
- Knife Lake Prehistoric District (21KA22, 24, 26)
- Fox Lake Site (21MR2)
- Mille Lacs
- Ayer Mission Site
- "About four miles north of Little Falls on the eastern bank of the Mississippi."
- Belle Prairie Village Site
- "About four miles north of Little Falls." Note this is a Native American site and not the replica log cabin and historic marker in the same vicinity.
- Fort Ripley
- "The only structure remaining... is the stone ruins of the former powder magazine. Basement foundations of a number of structures are indicated by deep depressions in the ground sprouting small trees. Camp Ripley marked the site with a flagstaff and a large sign... smaller signs indicate the locations of prominent buildings... Individual visits to the fort site are not allowed, but with advance notice, the camp will give an escorted tour to groups of at least ten... [Alternatively] you can see the site from the other side of the Mississippi... On the north end of the village [of Fort Ripley] is a turnoff to an attractive polished black granite marker with the history of Fort Ripley. You can drive or walk the short distance south of the marker to the turnaround. Across the river and south at the clearing is the site of old Fort Ripley." –Jeff Barnes, Forts of the Northern Plains (2008)
- Pelkey Lake Site
- Zebulon Pike's 1805-1806 Wintering Quarters
- "On the western bank of the Mississippi about four miles south of Little Falls."
- Rice Lake Prehistoric District
- Stanchfield Logging Camp
- Swan River Village Site
- "On the eastern bank of the Mississippi, about three miles south of Little Falls."
- Ayer Mission Site
- Otter Tail
- Inyan Ceyaka Otonwe in Carver Rapids Unit of Minnesota Valley State Recreation Area
- St. Louis
Willard Bunnell House (Winona County)
I shifted the Willard Bunnell House link from Winona to Homer, because the house is actually in Homer, which borders Winona. I am gathering solid material now toward creating the Bunnell House article very soon. Hurrmic (talk) 14:42, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Draft tally table of MN RHPs by county
Drafting at National Register of Historic Places listings in Minnesota\temp...if this turns out okay i would like to insert it into this list-article, as has been done for some other state RHP lists. This main list-article is a bit large, currently. If the remaining 20 or so small counties were table-ized, it would be too large. Is it okay if i move out to separate pages, some of the remaining larger counties? doncram (talk) 23:42, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- I moved out the remaining counties that had 20 or more listings. A couple with 19 already were split out. Still too big. Need to split out all others with more than 15 listings, and then perhaps those having exactly 15 listings, i think. doncram (talk) 01:26, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Multiple Property Submissions etc.
I added section to list all Multiple Property Submission, MRA, and TR studies for NRHP eligibility for the state. Thanks Elkman for providing generator to make that list easily! Does this add to the list-article sufficiently to develop it? I personally think each of the MRA documents should justify an article.... doncram (talk) 05:25, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- I made this list for Florida. Might something like it work here? --Ebyabe (talk) 20:48, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- Many of Minnesota's listings on the NRHP are described in the following Multiple Property Submissions, Multiple Resource Area, or Thematic Resources studies. Briefly i thot these were all wikipedia notable, but probably they are not all notable that way. Removed them from the main article. For each there is a NRHP document available on-line. These can be used, at least, to develop articles on the NRHPs. Anyhow, the list of MPSs etc, is:
- Aitkin County MRA
- American Indian Rock Art in Minnesota MPS 
- Architecture of Olof Hanson MPS 
- Benton County MRA 
- Blue Earth County MRA 
- Blue Earth County MRA (AD)
- Brown County MRA 
- Carnegie Libraries of St. Paul TR 
- Carver County MRA 
- Chisago County MRA 
- Chisago County MRA (AD)
- Clay County MRA 
- Clay County MRA (AD)
- Cold Spring Brewers' Houses TR
- Commercial Logging in Minnesota MPS 
- Cuyuna Iron Range Municipally-Owned Elevated Metal Water Tanks
- Dodge County MRA 
- Duluth's Central Business District, MPS
- Ethnic Hamlet Churches-Stearns County Catholic Settlement Churches TR 
- Faribault County MRA 
- Faribault County MRA (AD)
- Federal Relief Construction in Minnesota MPS 
- Federal Relief Construction in Minnesota MPS AD
- Fillmore County MRA 
- Grain Elevator Design in Minnesota MPS
- Houston County MRA 
- Iron and Steel Bridges in Minnesota MPS 
- Isanti County MRA 
- Itasca County MRA 
- James J. Hill's North Oaks Farm Buildings MPS
- Kanabec County MRA 
- Le Sueur County MRA 
- Lincoln County MRA 
- Lyon County MRA 
- Minnesota Hydroelectric Generating Facilities MPS 
- Minnesota Masonry-Arch Highway Bridges MPS 
- Minnesota Military Roads MPS 
- Minnesota Red River Trails MPS 
- Minnesota State Park CCC/WPA/Rustic Style MPS 
- Minnesota's Lake Superior Shipwrecks MPS
- Murray County MRA 
- Nobles County MRA 
- Nobles County MRA (AD)
- Oliver Iron Mining Company Buildings TR
- Ottawa Stone Buildings TR
- Overland Staging Industry in Minnesota MPS 
- Pine County MRA 
- Pipestone County MRA 
- Pipestone County MRA (AD)
- Pope County MRA 
- Portage Trails in Minnesota MPS 
- Precontact American Indian Earthworks MPS 
- Red Brick Houses in Wabasha, Minnesota, Associated with Merchant-Tradesmen MPS 
- Redwood County MRA 
- Reinforced-Concrete Highway Bridges in Minnesota MPS 
- Rice County MRA 
- Rice County MRA (AD)
- Rock County MRA 
- Rural Finnish Log Buildings of St. Louis County, Minnesota, 1890--1930s MPS 
- Rural Goodhue County MRA 
- Rural Goodhue County MRA (AD)
- Scott County MRA 
- Scott County MRA (AD)
- Shipwrecks of Minnesota's Inland Lakes and Rivers MPS 
- Stearns County MRA 
- U.S. Coast Guard Lighthouses and Light Stations on the Great Lakes TR
- Valley Creek Residences TR
- Washington County MRA 
- Washington County MRA (AD)
- West Seventh Street Early Limestone Houses TR
- Western Mesabi iron Range Village Halls TR;Itasca County MRA
- Wilkin County MRA 
- Wright County MRA 
Doncram added statement on where to find the entries for Minneapolis and Saint Paul. This should help many readers, especially those who don't know the state's largest city is in Hennepin County and the Capitol is in Ramsey. Another editor has removed it on the grounds of inconsistency. I think the benefit to the reader of being able to quickly find the Twin Cities in the long list outweighs inconsistency, particularly since so many listings are there. Jonathunder (talk) 15:20, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- This seems more than reasonable to me and, fwiw, there's precedent for this type of thing in the New Jersey and Delaware lists (there may be others, but those are two of which I'm aware). --sanfranman59 (talk) 01:59, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Splitting out counties with 10 and 9 sites
Due to the slow page-loading for this list, built up by more photos being added all the time, i think it's necessary now to split out more of the counties. That is, to create separate articles for Aitkin 10, Dodge 10, Lac Qui Parle 10, Mower 10, Nobles 10, Waseca 10, Big Stone 9, and Isanti 9 counties. Hope that is okay. --doncram (talk) 19:55, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
- Vogel, Jennifer (2013-07-05). "Sometimes they can't be saved: Morris to tear down elementary school". Minnesota Public Radio.
- Aufderheide, Arthur C., et al. "Health, Demography, and Archaeology of Mille Lacs Native American Mortuary Populations". Plains Anthropologist 39.149 (1994): 251-375: 273.
- Anfinson, Scott (2009). "Finding Minnesota: A Geographic Guide to Minnesota Archaeology" (PDF). Minnesota Office of the State Archaeologist. Retrieved 2012-12-18.
- LeVasseur, Andrea K. (2003). "Profiles, Mystery Bones, and Pots: The South Pike Bay Site" (PDF). The Minnesota Archaeologist 62: 85–98. Retrieved 2014-01-31.
- "Sites of Interest". Crosslake Historical Society. Retrieved 2014-08-17.
- Gibbon, Guy; Scott F. Anfinson (2008). "The Oneota Tradition in Southern Minnesota". Minnesota Archaeology: The First 13,000 Years. University of Minnesota.
- Dudzik, Mark J. [archive.leg.state.mn.us/docs/2005/mandated/050467.pdf "Annual Report, Fiscal Years 2004/05"] Check
|url=scheme (help) (PDF). Office of the State Archaeologist. Retrieved 2014-04-12.
- Dudzik, Mark J. (1995). "Visions in Stone: The Rock Art of Minnesota" (PDF). The Minnesota Archaeologist 54. Retrieved 2013-09-08.
- Granger, Susan; Scott Kelly (1994-06). "Little Falls' Historic Contexts: Final Report of an Historic Preservation Planning Project" (PDF). Gemini Research. Check date values in:
- Per address given in MHS NRHP database
- "Great archeological 'dig' right in Grand Meadow's backyard". Meadow Area News. 2007-11-07. Retrieved 2013-09-06.