Talk:National police

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Merge proposal / Rewrite canned[edit]

With the go ahead of the Law enforcement wikiproject a purpose discussion page has been opened for the discussion of a number of merge and redirect proposals concerning, among others, this article. I would appreciate any thoughts you might have, please click on the purpose discussion page link and give them there. This "list" will become a categroy. Thanks in advance. Pee Tern (talk) 23:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

 Done Content has been merged with Law enforcement agency, and a redirection to that article put in place as per ditto of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of federal police agencies. List of national police agencies is also now in place.
Peet Ern (talk) 22:35, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

FBI[edit]

How is the FBI not a national police force? They have police powers beyond intelligence work, powers of arrest, etc., and are national in scope territorially. Seems an arbitrary and narrow definition of police is being applied here, though it's not exactly clear what that is.Bobanny 17:22, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

They are a LEA, but not a police force. They do not have a primary responsiblity for (daily) social order and (daily) public [community] safety. Even their own web site states that they are not a national police force. I think I have managed to explain the differences in the rewritten Law enforcement agency, still a work in progress. Pee Tern (talk) 23:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Clean up required ?[edit]

I refer to Wikipedia articles, Federal Police and National Police. It would appear that both these pages should be cleaned up and probably merged, by an expert, for the following reasons. There is not actually a clean differentiation between federal police and national police as apparently being suggested by the two articles. Across the countries of the world there is probably the full spectrum of combinations of disjoint “local area” police, through “federal” police, to single “national” police services. It is also not clear what is meant by “police” in these two articles. The long list of agencies for the United States for example gives many of what in Australia would not be considered “police” services, but in Australia they are “federal” law enforcement agencies, some with powers of arrest and detention. In Australia, the Australian Federal Police is primarily there to enforce federal law, but it is empowered to act under any State’s legislation whenever required. It might be better to have one article which describes the range of types of jurisdictions and how they interact in different countries. For example, Japan(?) has one, national police service, Australia has two “levels” of policing, federal police, and state police for each state, and the United States has three(?) “levels” of policing, federal, state, and county. In the United States, as I understand it, certain types of crime if they are take on a serious form, or cross state boundaries automatically become a federal matter, but this is not the case in Australia where the States liaise directly. The example of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police providing federal and state/province policing is not unique. In Australia, each State and one of the major territories has its own police service, and the Australian Federal Police has a commercial arrangement with the Australian Capital Territory to provide policing services for approximately 350,000 people, and provides policing to the minor dependant territories and the one quasi-independent territory, Norfolk Island. There are now also multi country levels of policing, for example Europol(?).152.91.9.190 (talk) 23:50, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

 Done Content has been merged with Law enforcement agency, and a redirection to that article put in place as per ditto of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of federal police agencies. List of national police agencies is also now in place.
Peet Ern (talk) 22:35, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Rewrite in progress[edit]

I am doing a major rewrite and restructure of this article. For the time being, if you have any suggestions or corrections to make, please post them here so that I can properly include them as I go. Pee Tern (talk) 21:31, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

 Done Content has been merged with Law enforcement agency, and a redirection to that article put in place as per ditto of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of federal police agencies. List of national police agencies is also now in place.
Peet Ern (talk) 22:35, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

US national police force citation and relevance.[edit]

I am not sure that a national police force is forbidden by the 10th. If the states delegated the authority to the federation then it would be okay?

Also, is this relevant to this aticle? It might be very relevant to Law enforcement in the United States.

Also, please note that this article will be gone in a few weeks. It is being merged into Law enforcement agency.

Pee Tern (talk) 21:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Check of see also section content before deletion proposal.[edit]

 Done Content has been merged with Law enforcement agency, and a redirection to that article put in place as per ditto of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of federal police agencies. List of national police agencies is also now in place.
Peet Ern (talk) 22:35, 4 September 2008 (UTC)