Talk:Nazi–Soviet economic relations (1934–41)

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Rename[edit]

Article need to be renamed - since name mislead - as far as in article described not only January 1933- June 1941 economic relations. And indeed nice POV poster:) Also some clarification in lead would be relevant - now it's a mess Jo0doe (talk) 15:49, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Please don't unilaterally move the article. It covers Nazi-Soviet relations, as it most clearly states. The pre-1934 could not be more clearly labeled "Background."Mosedschurte (talk) 23:28, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Please clarify - relations or economic relations? ThanksJo0doe (talk) 08:12, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Background of Nazi-Soviet relations? Does any source indicate existance of the Nazi-Soviet pre-1934 relations?Jo0doe (talk) 08:12, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Picture Gallery[edit]

What all of it are depict here? Jo0doe (talk) 14:50, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Diagram[edit]

Is really strange [6] - while at same time Swedish_iron_ore_during_World_War_II

  • Prior to the Second World War, Germany was able to supply itself with only a quarter of its total iron-ore consumption per year, with the rest being imported from other countries. Sweden provided up to almost 60 percent of the iron-ore that was imported into Germany.
    • In 1940, iron-ore imports from Sweden, as well as Norway, constituted 11,550,000 of the 15,000,000 tons Germany consumed that year
  • CHROMIUM ORES German Import plan for 1940
from Greece a maximum of ...... 12, 000 tons per year
from Yugoslavia a maximum of ... 12, 000 " " "
from Bulgaria approximately ..... 8, 000 " " "
the 35,000 tons of chromium ore which the Norwegian ferro-chrome works Bjolvefossen purchased in Turkey for the purpose of sending on the ferro-chrome obtained there from to Germany.

Total 67,000

  • September 1939 - Rumanian Government was willing to assume a guarantee that Germany would be able to buy 130,000 tons of petroleum a month from Rumania at reasonable terms
1. Grain deliveries. 1,000,000 tons of corn,
400,000 tons of wheat,
200,000 tons of barley.
Furthermore, the delivery of 200,000 hogs and 80,000 cattle is provided for, among other things. etc.etc

It's very look like Inspection of train with food [7] –at1956 DDR :(Jo0doe (talk) 15:21, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Sources misused[edit]

In article

  • Rubber was particularly troublesome, with Germany requiring 80% of its rubber from imports
    • In source (a b c d e f g h i j k Ericson 1999, p. 1–2 )- By 1939 Germany developing synthetic material plants coukd handle about 50 percent of the Reich rubber needsJo0doe (talk) 15:58, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

In article

  • It became a major supplier of vital materials to Germany ... grain
    • In source (a b c d e f g h i j k Ericson 1999, p. 1–2 )- Germany's food supply was fairly secure imports made up only 11 percent of the Reich's overall food requarements.
  • Manganese ore given as Manganese

same issue with Chromium ores - again it given as raw Chromium - really sad Jo0doe (talk) 16:54, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Oil production and deliveries[edit]

It is said that in October 1941, Germany would have exhausted its strategic stocks without Soviet supply. But does Ericson take into account the fact that the Polish oil fields under Soviet control produced 350 000 tons of petrol a year? Therefore without the Nazi-Soviet agreement, this oil would have been German without any counterpart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.214.4.47 (talk) 02:18, 9 December 2012 (UTC)


Russophobia[edit]

these idiotic pictures have the only porpoise to convince people that nazism and communism are the same and that Russia and Germany were both evil. They should be removed.

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Nazi-SovietEcoRelations Quad 1940.png

The soviet Union just did what was usual at the the time after almost anyone made pacts with hitler

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement

UK and the US just let Hitler annex czechoslovakia and austria without doing a damn thing and they had economic relations with nazi germany too. Especially the Bush family did many cooperation.

Here i can do such picture too see

http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s666/malaria2000/Nazi-SovietEcoRelations_Quad_1941_zps1fe4509f.png

http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s666/malaria2000/1280px-Imperial_Federation_Map_of_the_World_Showing_the_Extent_of_the_British_Empire_in_1886_levelled_zpsb0474162.jpg

http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s666/malaria2000/Cicatrices_de_flagellation_sur_un_esclave_zps9274d454.jpg

Especially since UK slaved whole africa and america deported million black slaves into america, both countries were worse than nazi germany or communist russia in my opinion.--Quandapanda (talk) 03:32, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

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