Talk:Nazi birthing centres for foreign workers

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OST vs. Polish[edit]

Invasion of Poland in 1939. The eastern half of the country is where many of the so-called eastern workers came from

OST meant East and didn't include GG. Reference 2 describes the fate of Polish citizens, rather than Ost-Arbeiter.Xx236 (talk) 07:38, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ostarbeiters came from all places. Their ethnic origin is a prime target of political arm-wrestling by modern historians especially from Ukraine who never specify their prewar citizenship. In the years 1941—1944, the total number of Ostarbeiters was approximately 2.8 million according to Russian sources. It is believed that 2.2 million of them came from present-day Ukraine, either from the Polish Ukraine before the invasion or from the Soviet Ukraine, we don't know. Poeticbent talk 20:33, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
born to Eastern European female slave labour (German: Ostarbeiter) - unsourced. Please quote your source that only OST-arbeiterinnen's children were the victims. The name of the page says for foreign workers. Xx236 (talk) 06:04, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • One of the biggest lies of the Stalinist historiography – first proposed by Ribbentrop-Molotov and than maintained by the Extraordinary State Commission – was the imperialist claim that all Polish citizens of the eastern half of Poland invaded by the USSR and annexed to the Soviet Republics turned into citizens of the Soviet Union. This is how the entire chapter of war-related statistics (including the Holocaust statistics) was invented out of thin air and – at present – is being propagated by the right-wing nationalist historians. Poeticbent talk 14:07, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The victims of the centres were children of P and OST female workers. The page says female slave labour (German: Ostarbeiter) .Xx236 (talk) 06:09, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
de:Ausländerkinder-Pflegestätte (Velpke) Xx236 (talk) 10:22, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. I understand now. Our article Ostarbeiter does not describe the general category of Slavic foreigners grouped together, i.e.: the Zivil- und Ostarbeiter brought to Nazi Germany during World War II. The article reads in the opening paragraph:

The Ostarbeiters were apprehended from the newly formed German districts of Reichskommissariat Ukraine, General Government Distrikt Galizien, and Reichskommissariat Ostland which comprised the territories of German occupied Poland as well as formerly Soviet occupied Poland since 1939, and the Soviet Union itself.

Please note that the Ostarbeiter article does not support your claim (top) that GG was not a part of it. Just like I said, District of Galicia along with central and northern Kresy made into parts of the Reichskommissariats were the areas of Poland where the population was ethnically mixed. However, I have reworked the article, and added all relevant internal links. Thanks for noticing the discrepancy though. Pleasure working with you, Poeticbent talk 16:27, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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