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Death of Mandela[edit]

This is not well explained in the page although a very long and slow process.

" ... he was rushed to hospital on June 8 it was a crisis not just for his family but also for the ruling party... Much had already been made of Mandela’s approaching 95th birthday (on July 18) and the ANC was trying hard to have that date internationally recognised as Mandela Day... on July 4 court documents were released saying that Mandela was in a permanent vegetative state and is assisted in breathing by a life-support machine. The Mandela family has been advised by medical practitioners that his life-support machine should be switched off...On September 1 he was moved to his Johannesburg home, which had been fitted out as a medical facility with specially chosen doctors. Here security was even tighter and there were no hospital staff or nurses for journalists to talk to. With Mandela Day over, Mandela was, so to speak, now free to die...Holding the funeral on the eve of December 16 would emphasise Mandela the guerilla leader and revolutionary. That would be sufficiently before Christmas and allow time to organise the large international event that the funeral was bound to be. This in turn dictated that Mandela had to die about 10 days before that. And he duly did, on December 5..." [1]

References

  1. ^ "How Long Will South Africa Survive?: The Looming Crisis" 1st Edition by R.W. Johnson (Author)2015

Rangutan (Munich) (talk) 11:53, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

The long road to international acclaim[edit]

Currently the lead say "Although critics on the right denounced him as a communist terrorist" when he was convicted and during much of the following 2 decades it was not just the right, but many in the middle ground of politics who considered him to be a communist and a terrorist (after all it was the height of the cold war and the divide was not right on one side and middle and left on the other).

The sentence has other problems because it tries to sum up in one sentence views which spanned 30 years as if they happened over a five year period. For example is there any evidence that "those on the radical left deemed him too eager to negotiate and reconcile with apartheid's supporters" in the 1960s?

The sentence would read better if it was to be constructed like this:

Initially critics denounced him as a communist terrorist, later those who wished to see the over through of of apartheid deemed him too eager to negotiate and reconcile with apartheid's supporters, but he eventually gained international acclaim for his activism.

-- PBS (talk) 11:57, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Hmm, difficult one. The trouble with the proposed wording is that there are still people who denounce him as a communist terrorist (mostly on the far right). While it is probably true that many people not strictly on the political right did consider him such back in the day, it was clearly an accusation coming primarily from the political right. Midnightblueowl (talk) 22:10, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
What does political right mean? What is your source that during the 60s and into the 70s the accusations came primarily from the political right? -- PBS (talk) 11:52, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 14 October 2017[edit]

Dear Sir,

I want to make an edit in the Wiki-page Nelson Mandela. Please be kind enough to allow me to do that.

Yours,

Slugsheir Slugsheir (talk) 05:50, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Not done: According to the page's protection level you should be able to edit the page yourself. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. You have already made an edit. Gulumeemee (talk) 06:59, 14 October 2017 (UTC)