Talk:Neo-Scholasticism

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criticism[edit]

Interesting that the (obviously) pro- Neo-Scholastic who wrote this article saw no need to include any critics of neo-Scholasticism.

Was Josef Pieper a neo-Scholastic? Etienne Gilson? -- G.S. 68.217.167.53 16:31, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

In the sense that both Pieper and Gilson were Thomists, then yes, they would be considered neo-scholastics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.251.135.226 (talk) 22:09, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Inappropriate tone[edit]

Here is an example of how this article's tone is inappropriate:

"Among Catholics, neo-Scholasticism gains ground day by day, doing away with Ontologism, Traditionalism, the Dualism of Gunther, and the exaggerated Spiritualism of Descartes. It is free from the weaknesses of Pragmatism and Voluntarism, in which some thinkers vainly sought the reconciliation of their philosophy and their faith. Neo-Scholasticism has a character of permanence as truth itself has; but it is destined in its development to keep up with scientific progress. Like everything that lives, it must advance; arrested growth would mean decay."

It reads more like a pep-talk to fellow neo-Scholastics than an impartial encyclopedia article. This is only one example among many.Nda02a (talk) 20:02, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but this whole article seems to be from early 1900s, so it's also really out of date too. It really should be redone, but I don't know who would do it. --HTZ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hanktzepeda (talkcontribs) 17:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

The source of the article[edit]

The article is simply a reformulation of Catholic Encyclopedia on Neo-Scholasticism. That encyclopedia is good and reliable on Roman-Catholic matters, but the tone and formulations of this article should be more Wikipedian, kind of. Said: Rursus 07:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I note that the page on Clemens Timpler refers to the Protestant Reformed Neuscholastik, but this occurs at the outbreak of the seventeenth century. I feel that relying on the [[Catholic Encyclopedia] might give us a somewhat biased account of the matter. Certainly I think the page needs considerably re-working.Harrypotter (talk) 11:50, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
So who will do the reworking of this article? Is it sufficient to augment it with references from other sources, or should it be completely rewritten? Madnova777 (talk) 02:48, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

I have no argument with the preceeding commentators. However, the "historical catholic position" is, in itself, a valid desideratum. That non-catholic views, and/or interpretations, should be included in the wiki is patently obvious but it begs the question of which of the protesting commentators can or will flesh out their "position(s)". There is a multitude of academics out there in radioland teaching on the subject -- many with deep insight and true talent in pedagogy -- not one of them so unqualified as I. Hopefully, they will find their way to and the time to address this issue. Got any recommendations? Any links? Westernesse (talk) 03:20, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Decline of thomism in the 1970s[edit]

The article should maybe try to explain the causes that led to thomism's decline in the 1970s, at least in the form of neothomism. One of the reasons is the Church's active dialogue with other religions, many of which had been frankly opposed to the aristotelian origins of thomism. Another reason is the general intellectual turmoil that the West experienced in the years that followed the 1968 cultural revolution. Many former thomists either adopted entirely secular philosophies such as structuralism and phenomenology or embraced new intellectual currents within the Church itself, such as anonymous Christianity, ecclesiology of communion and liberation theology. ADM (talk) 11:42, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

removing POV tag with no active discussion per Template:POV[edit]

I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:

This template is not meant to be a permanent resident on any article. Remove this template whenever:
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Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:30, 14 June 2013 (UTC)