Talk:New York State Route 38

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Good article New York State Route 38 has been listed as one of the Engineering and technology good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
August 27, 2008 Good article nominee Listed
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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:New York State Route 38/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
    See below
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
    See below.
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
    Issues related to #1 and #3.
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
    This article needs a map... it should have relatively high priority in the MTF queue.
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

I'll finish this review at home. :-D —Rob (talk) 21:34, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

There are... a few... prose issues. I will be out until August 12, so other reviewers are free to add their comments here. Thanks. —Rob (talk) 02:02, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Prose / MOS[edit]

  • "The business district passes a large corporation along with some small homes." - unusual wording, odds are the business district is stationary.
    • Done
  • "The railroad tracks that were parallelling to the east now parallel to the west as both turn to the northwest." This, and all further references to the tracks, have an awkward sentence structure. If Route 38 passes over or under the tracks, or if there's a level crossing, just mention it.
    • Done
  • "After Route 221, Route 38 heads to the northwest still," - awkward; "Route 38 continues to the northwest" is better.
    • Done
  • "Homes become scarce" - odd wording...
    • Done
  • "The highway then leaves Chipmans Corners rather uneventfully." - what does this even mean? "Continues X" or "turns to the X" is preferred.
    • Done
  • "There are a few homes, but these are scarce, with nothing really surrounding the highway." - the tone needs work here.
    • Done
  • "The highway then becomes a center road in downtown Auburn" - "arterial road" is better, unless 'center road' is used in NY often.
    • Done
  • "Although the highway changed streets, the surroundings have not changed." - this sentence doesn't actually say anything.
    • Done
  • "Businesses begin to appear along the two state touring routes" - this sounds like magic. :-D "The number of businesses increase..."
    • Done
  • "There is now a creek on the western side of the highway," - as a general rule of thumb, avoid references to a distinct time in articles.
    • Done
  • Any mentions of stretches are purely arbitrary (for the reader's benefit, not as defined by an authority), so it's best not to treat them like they're set in noise.
    • Done

Major aspects / focus[edit]

  • "Not far after, there is an intersection with a connector road." - this sentence is of questionable notability... I'm sure there's tons of connector roads.
    • Done
  • Newark Valley leads to a disambiguation page.
    • Done
  • If it's a suburbanized village, (suburbanized is a made-up word) what is it a suburb of?
    • Done
  • Who owns the railroad tracks paralleling Route 38?
    • Done
  • "Richford is a small town, with typical suburban buildings following NY 38." - same problem as above.
    • Done
  • "Although Harford Mills is not directly on Route 38, it is accessible via Route 200, which heads eastward, intersecting with New York State Route 221 later. The main highway heads to the northwest out of Harford Mills and into more rural regions." - These sentences may stray too far from the focus on NY 38.
    • Done
  • "The route then begins to pass a more suburbanized area as it approaches Dryden." - same deal as above
    • Done
  • "After leaving the hamlet, the surroundings become nothing but forests." - seems to imply that there's a preserve of some sort, is that true? Or does this just mean the population density is low compared to Peruville?
    • Done
  • Section "Groton to Cayuga County line" is unnecessary; merge with previous.
    • Done
  • "Route 38 crosses a river and becomes rural once again." - which river? Or is it an unnamed creek?
    • Done
  • "Moravia is a very urbanized village," - I'm not sure this is an appropriate description for a village of 1,363.
    • Done
  • "it passes a small pond to the east. This small pond flows into a creek, which continues northward along Route 38." - names are good here.
    • Done

I'm sorry for the very long delay, but I finally got around to finishing it all. I hope it is passable now.Mitch32(UP) 14:04, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

USRD GA audit[edit]

This article has failed the USRD GA audit and will be sent to WP:GAR if the issues are not resolved within one week. Please see WT:USRD for more details, and please ask me if you have any questions as to why this article failed. --Rschen7754 (T C) 06:36, 5 April 2009 (UTC)