Talk:Nigel Lawson

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Denial not Debate[edit]

Lawson shows no interest in debating global warming, what he is doing is more akin to denying global warming and I believeitwould be better ti change the word used in the article. Espeically with his Global Warming Policy foundaro, which is similar to the tactics used by tobacco companies to deny the health effects of tobacco.91.125.83.211 (talk) 00:03, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm being blocked by some guy called ERK, who claims that the science behnd clmate changeis "highly debated", can I do something do prevent him from pushng his own agenda onto wikipedia?91.125.83.211 (talk) 00:10, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

You can leave this until a consensus is reached in the community, however I will suggest you read the following Wikipedia policies to familiarize yourself with proper terminology in editing Biographies on Wikipedia. WP:NPV, and WP:BLP should help you. Any further questions you may refer to my justification at this user's talk page. ERK talk 00:15, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
When people argue about topics, it's called debating. There is much debate about global warming, even though we know it's true, some people don't know that it is. We are not allowed to push our POV (Point of View). See WP:NPOV. Bluefist talk 00:14, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

There's a lot of debate about whether AIDS is real or not, should I remove the articles covering AIDS denial?91.125.83.211 (talk) 00:19, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

No, you should not, given the article has suffient sources. We don't deal with facts, we deal with reliable sources stating the facts. Bluefist talk 00:21, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_denial Just saying (at least say skeptic) 91.125.83.211 (talk) 00:24, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Lord Blabby seems to be deliberately denying climate change. He's not a skeptic, he is clearly a denier. 129.31.77.190 (talk) 09:11, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

NPOV? An IP has changed the article -in good faith but inappropriately -to give equal weight to Lawson's views. This is covered by WP:UNDUE -see Climate_change#Human_influences. I will partially revert it. JRPG (talk) 17:10, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

NPOV[edit]

The source for this article is principally Lawson's memoirs: 'The View from Number Eleven'. Personally I am sympathetic to Lawson. I suspect, that this is apparent from the content of the article but I believe I have made a reasonable effort to maintain NPOV. For balance I would recommend an external link to William Keegan's book 'Mr Lawson's Gamble' (I do not have other details) and possibly to Edmund(?) Dell's 'The Chancellors'.

There is probably more material worth adding to the article at the level of coverage that I have adopted. NL's opposition to the Poll Tax and his role in the formulation of the Toronto Terms for debt relief for Third World Countries are condidates, but I will await feedback for now. -- Alan Peakall

Liebsen[edit]

Was he, or his father, born Liebsen and changed the surname to Lawson on arrival to the UK? -- Chris 7-Sep-05

Cousins?[edit]

"Somewhere" I read a long time ago that Lawson, Leon Brittan (and by extension his brother Samuel Brittan), Keith Joseph and Malcolm Rifkind were variously related (two sets of second cousins?). Can anyone elaborate? (If there is a Wikipage dealing with "assorted relations" move this to there.)

Loan[edit]

When he was at the Spectator he bought an expensive house with a council loan. mikeL

Education[edit]

"After studying at Westminster and Christ Church, Oxford" No indication of what he studied -- Stephen Howe

Marriages[edit]

Either Lawson was a bigamist, or the overlapping time spans for his marriages are wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.167.168.68 (talk) 01:24, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Can't a better photo be found?[edit]

The photograph is absurd. Can't a better likeness be found? 173.16.252.154 (talk) 02:46, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

The absurdity is that this 80-year old man does not have a single grey hair on his head! 80.176.88.21 (talk) 17:49, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Children & BLPNAME[edit]

Hi Dozzzzzzzzzing_off. Whilst I totally agree with the wp:BLPNAME policy ..& it wouldn't really matter if I didn't ..there is nothing whatsoever to stop internal links to Nigella & Dominic. No reference is required for these. Regards JRPG (talk) 17:30, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

I know. There's nothing wrong with the internal links. I'm just saying further down the page it started listing his kids but only named five of them in the list, despite starting it with "His six children," and that bothered me. It's all good now, though. Thanks. Dozzzzzzzzzing off (talk) 21:41, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Reason for Lawson's resignation[edit]

Sorry: incomplete link pasted in regard to edit on reason for Lawson's resignation http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/new-light-on-chancellors-exit-margaret-thatchers-recollections-of-a-turbulent-decade-at-the-helm-of-the-conservative-party-and-britain-are-published-today-the-resignation-of-nigel-lawson-donald-macintyre-notes-the-protagonists-differing-memories-of-the-events-of-1989-1511491.html Gravuritas (talk) 17:57, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Gravitas, I think you should include a brief summary from your new-found article as it shows that there was either a misunderstanding or more likely Thatcher simply needed Lawson as a cover for implementing Walters views. Regards JRPG (talk) 23:33, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
I think it's more complicated than that: Lawson had secretly been making the pound shadow the ERM, iirc, by varying interest rates, which to be blunt was one of his few cock-ups. Walters was making speeches that could be taken as critical of Lawson's actions but Thatcher allowed Lawson a very free rein- understandably as he had done an excellent job before then. I found the Independent article to support deletion of the 'reason for resignation' inserted a couple of edits back, but was largely uninformative: it blathers on about who did what on the day, but doesn't cover the real issues. In the background there was also a large difference of opinion on the poll tax, which Lawson scuppered by insisting on it paying its way from year 1, guaranteeing some serious resistance from the losers- and this disagreement if I've got the timing right may also have been in both Lawson's & Thatcher's minds. But sourcing that is beyond me at present.
Gravuritas (talk) 23:47, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Skeptic?[edit]

Is it really reasonable to describe Lawson as being skeptical of climate change? Given that he disagrees with what is generally accepted in the scientific world, this seems to take his POV. Skepticism implies an unwillingness to believe something without evidence, yet Lawson dismisses all evidence he finds inconvenient and uncritically accepts what little might support his views. We would not accept someone's claim of being 'skeptical' of evolution by natural selection or that the Earth orbits the sun or that HIV causes Aids. Booshank (talk) 19:21, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Think this is covered in denial not debate heading. It is not in his financial interest to believe it or to spend time studying it. WP:FLAT applies! JRPG (talk) 20:56, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Novel "GB84"[edit]

I've always wondered who the politician referred to as "The Jew" was in David Peace's novel about the 1984-5 miners' strike, GB84. Is it Nigel Lawson? He was Energy Secretary at the time and, according to this article, is from a Jewish family.

I would recommend that this be included in the article, if there's a source to suggest that it's true. Epa101 (talk)

The nickname could equally have applied to Leon Brittan, (like Lawson also of Baltic Jewish origin) who was Home Secretary when the strike began, and thus responsible for the policing of the dispute.Cloptonson (talk) 13:20, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

To Govern is to Choose[edit]

If somebody has a copy of his memoirs to hand (or a copy of Hansard, or something similar - I think Lawson said it in his resignation speech), iirc he attributed this quote to Pierre Mendes-France.Paulturtle (talk) 17:56, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Photograph duplicated!![edit]

Why does the same photograph appear twice? There is a second photo available Nigel Lawson 006.jpg dating to 2006 but like the first no context is provided. I will remove the lower photo on WP:BRD. JRPG (talk) 10:20, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

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High Net Worth People[edit]

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BBC Radio 4 broke impartiality rules in Nigel Lawson climate change interview[edit]

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/apr/09/bbc-radio-4-broke-impartiality-rules-in-nigel-lawson-climate-change-interview

John Cummings (talk) 14:35, 9 April 2018 (UTC)