Talk:Nirvana (British band)

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Does anyone want to back up the "first concept album ever" assertion? It seems odd that this disagrees with most music historians as well as wikipedia's own "concept album" page. unixslug 19:14, 4 July, 2005 (UTC)

Well, "The Story of Simon Simopath" is a concept album. It was released before any other album that is also widely recognized as being a concept album.....John Miller

...but 'The Story of Simon Simopah' isn't a widely recognized concept album, so why is it important to mention that it was 'probably the first' Seems a bit unnecessary to me....[[User:Volcanictelephone

The fact that it is not as widely noted as it should be does not invalidate the fact. Sources that do know of it - recognize it as a valid claim. The album came in a gatefold sleeve (double album jacket) - very unusual at that time. The Beatles "Sgt. Pepper" with probably the first-ever gatefold sleeve by a pop act had only been released 4 months earlier. The sleeve featured an extended narrative text giving the storyline that linked all the songs on the album. Reviews at the time (and reviews of the 2003 CD reissue) alluded to the storyline and the album's concept. And that was October 1967. Can anyone assert an earlier pop concept album? "Sgt. Pepper" was a "song cycle" not a concept album per se - and Lennon and McCartney both made clear that they did not regard "Pepper" as a "concept album" The Who's "Tommy" was certainly the first commercially-successful concept album. Davidpatrick 06:51, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

For a claim like this, I think that "nobody's proved me wrong" doesn't cut it. If you can cite a source calling it the first, then that's awesome. If there's not then at the very least, it's original research ("I looked and didn't find an earlier one"). I'm not a regular editor, I could be wrong; just my two cents. Kai (talk) 07:10, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

New York Dolls albums[edit]

On the 2 New York Dolls albums, one of the additional musicians is "Alex Spyropolous-piano". Is this the Nirvana musician, or another person entirely? 41.245.172.87 (talk) 09:58, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

"One of the first of the 60s concept albums" would do, wouldn't it. Personally I don't think it's such a big deal. Mikis Theodorakis was doing "concept albums" from at least 1960, and Alex Spyropoulos would surely have known that.

The New York Dolls reference is interesting. Alex and Spyropoulos are fairly common Greek names, so it could be just somebody with the same name. --Pavlos Andronikos (talk) 16:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)