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There seems to be a confusion between singular and plurals. For example, "Initially, a diverse body of people were described as noblemen..." "A diverse body of people" is a singular entity, therefore it "was described". Similarly, in the first sentence of the precis on the front page today, "The Hungarian nobility were initially a diverse body of people..." is also a singularity, so the verb should be "was".
This is a very common occurrence - even the BBC does it. It often talks about a football team in the plural ("Manchester United are... etc), which grates as much as if I had written "...even the BBC do it..." in the first sentence of this paragraph. 81.102.20.141 (talk) 10:41, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The BBC do it because that is grammatically correct in British English, where teams, groups, etc. are described in plural form instead of in singular form. Epicgenius (talk) 17:03, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In British English the BBC would be "they", not "it". My point is that this isn't actually a grammar error but a WP:ENGVAR issue. Epicgenius (talk) 02:38, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've been British all my life and it most certainly is a grammatical error. Just because it's common doesn't mean it's right. 81.102.20.141 (talk) 17:25, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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