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To my best knowledge the silkworm is NOT a Noctuid moth but belongs to the family Bombycidae! 16:48, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Broken IW's[edit]

Interwiki graph

This article has a lot of interwiki links that after a few clicks end up in a completely different article. See the interwiki graph. To help solve this, make sure that IW's only go to the Noctuidae article on the local wikis, not to some related species. ZorroIII (talk) 21:28, 22 December 2007 (UTC)


Achaea (disambiguation) says that it is a a genus of noctuid moths: As the Achaea catocaloides Caterpillars are devastating crops in West Africa, I thought I'd start an article. Except I know little about moths. Anyone know the classification of this animal? Does Achaera (moth) really belong here or somewhere else? Any help would be appreciated. T L Miles (talk) 21:19, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Check it out at LepindexGRM (talk) 10:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


it appears there's no discussion on either here or Erebidae talk page — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:10, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

I suspect it's not being discussed because the prospect of fixing hundreds and hundreds of WP entries is not particularly appealing, and we ARE in fact talking about hundreds of pages that are all incorrect. A very large portion of the Noctuidae was moved to Erebidae back in 2006, in the following major publication: Lafontaine, J.D.; Fibiger, M. 2006: Revised higher classification of the Noctuoidea (Lepidoptera). Canadian Entomologist, 138: 610-635. Not only did it split noctuids into two families, but it sank two other families, Arctiidae and Lymantriidae, into the new family, as well. The consensus since this publication has been to accept the new classification, and, for example, Wikispecies has been almost fully updated and brought into line. Wikipedia has not, and I can only assume there are two factors at work: (1) SCOPE - because the amount of work to fix all the broken articles is enormous, and (2) INERTIA - because many editors or would-be editors on WP are still using references that pre-date the new classification; one can expect, for example, that attempts to update all the articles that use the name "Arctiidae" so it says "Erebidae" instead are going to be subject to incessant reversion by well-meaning editors who are using OUTDATED resources. I doubt that any editor is going to be happy about spending days of effort re-writing the classifications on several hundred pages, if they are going to have to fight against an incessant battery of reversion attempts by other editors. As things stand as of today, the articles for Noctuidae, Arctiidae, and Lymantriidae are all INCORRECT, and need to be brought into line with the Erebidae article. I will post copies of this explanation on those pages, as well. Maybe some enterprising soul will take this project on, but even though it is certainly something that should not be ignored, it may be a long time before it's resolved; it's already been 8 years now, and only Wikispecies has been changed, presumably because there are no editors there who use outdated resources. Dyanega (talk) 17:18, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
@Dyanega: - we had some discussion on this at User_talk:HKmoths#High_level_structure, it seems like the best option would be to go towards use of template:automatic taxobox so that any flux can be handled with changes at just one point in the tree rather than to have to make changes in all lower levels. Some clarity on the high level structure and I think some of us can do the slog work. Maybe WT:LEPID is the right venue for discussion. Shyamal (talk) 17:26, 1 May 2014 (UTC)