Talk:Norman Bethune

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I'm surprised[edit]

As a Canadian, I'm surprised that I didn't really learn about Norman Bethune until I came to Germany. Communist or not, Bethune was a selfless man, who every Canadian should see as a model in their own life.

Indeed. I have supplemented this article with factual information, neutralised the anticommunist bias, and corrected a number of errors of spelling and the like. Shorne 00:19, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

The article is tendentious and has a very un-encyclopedic air of Chinese Socialist Hero hagiography about it.

See the book "Saranac, America's Magic Mountain" for a more human depiction of Bethune.


"success of univeral heealth care"? Umm, bias again wikipedia? Socialism doesn't work!!! (68.227.211.175 19:23, 22 January 2006 (UTC))

""Biased but true. With all due respect, if you think Socialism doesn't work, you should look up "Southern Cone". After you read about the "success" of free-market capitalism, you can make such a claim. You're very welcome.--Csladic (talk) 21:16, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Dr Bethune In Battlefield.jpg[edit]

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Statue of Bethune in Montreal[edit]

Long ago, a chinese delegation came to Montreal for the first time and asked to see a statue of Norman Bethune, there had none. The chinese government sent a statue, as agift, now at the corner of Guy and Maisonneuve, by Concordia University.

Takima 23:13, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Dr Bethune In Battlefield.jpg[edit]

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Don't be suprised[edit]

Don't be suprised if you only know about Bethune if you go to China, he was a hero to the Chinses people with all of his western medicines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.53.187.40 (talk) 23:59, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

For Chinese, the most famous Canadian is #1 Mark Rowswell, #2 Henry Bethune. The most famous American is John Leighton Stuart, hah. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.117.219 (talk) 04:55, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

any need for Bethunes essay poem?[edit]

I found the old Bethune Institute link which included his famously forgotten poem. I redirected the link to an archived page but his poem unfortunately was missing from the back up copy. Link sort of has no purpose without it. Is the poem worth posting or linking to as an example of his writing and thoughts? Pictures of his improved surgical tools would be cool. J. D. Pfaff (talk) 07:42, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Listing of random relatives[edit]

I removed this:

Bethune's great-nephew is Canadian politician and Happy Planet beverage company founder Gregor Robertson.[1]

because unless the page is going to provide a comprehensive list of his relatives, why bother putting that one in? I suspect it was put in my Robertson's electoral team. In any case, there's no relevance to Bethune here. It could belong on Robertson's page, but even there I'd like to see it as part of a list of all of Gregor's relatives not just one popular with Asian Canadians. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.114.192.225 (talk) 15:32, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Date of birth[edit]

Article gives two dates, although they differ only by one day: which is correct? NinetyCharacters (talk) 07:37, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Personal life[edit]

According to his biographer Adrienne Clarkson, Bethune was "a kind, sharing man who was hopelessly devoted to a married woman (Marian Dale Scott, wife of F.R. Scott)".[1] Rather poignant, isn't it?Toddsschneider (talk) 15:06, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Legacy and Political activities/motivation[edit]

I think the Legacy needs two subsections along the lines off "Abroad" and "In Canada" because currently the section is a bit syncopated and hard to read. Further, the sections Political activities and Political motivation are both very short and should be merged into one section after his biography but before legacy. Comments? If anybody feels up to it go ahead and make the changes, otherwise I will make them if no one voices opposition. --DFRussia (talk) 20:04, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

mobile medical aid[edit]

Before I edited this, the article said his work in Spain was "the model" for mobile army surgical hospitals. This is a stretch. One, our article on MASH units says US Army surgeons developed the concept. (True, unreferenced, but the idea that Bethume's work served as the model is unreferenced as well.) Two, the ideas of getting medical aid to war wounded and getting war wounded to medical aid has been around for a while. E.g., there were litter teams and field hospitals before the Spanish Civil War. The teams bring the wounded to the medical facility and the hospital gets up as close as possible to facilitate quick transfer. The MASH concept was unique in that it provided a higher level of surgical aid rather than simple bandaging. Three, Bethune's concept was fairly limited. He supplied a truck with lots of dressings and blood for transfusion, with a few personnel providing the battlefield aid. The MASH concept was much larger.--S. Rich (talk) 23:51, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm assuming there is a typo in Bethune's last will. The leader of the Communist Party of Canada was Tim Buck (not Tim Burke) and I'm guessing Bethune knew this!

Pink Pagoda; James Garrow[edit]

The entry on the "Pink Pagoda" project seems inappropriate within the Norman Bethune entry. It appears to be there simply because the institiute Dr. Garrow operates is called the Bethune Institute; it does not appear to be logically related to Bethune. Should it be moved into its own entry? Guerch85 (talk) 03:22, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Visitor Centre image[edit]

This image should be removed, since this visitor centre was taken down in May of 2011. A new and larger Visitor Centre is currently under construction. [2] Guerch85 (talk) 03:47, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Samaranch[edit]

Why is Samaranch in See also? Did they work together in the Republican health corps? --Error (talk) 15:23, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

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