Talk:North River (Hudson River)
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Should be moved
I did not know the debate was going on - I strongly support making this page a disambig, and moving the current article to North River, New York. This name merely welds a map coordinate to a common geographic formation, like West Coast, South River, or East Valley. It should be a disambiguation page. BD2412 T 18:04, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
I support moving as well. It would be different if this North River were clearly well-known outside the New York and naval communities, but it's not. It needs to have the same weight as the other North Rivers. (Will stop disambiguating for now, though.)Ken Gallager 19:31, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Also note that there are now 22 North Rivers listed on the disambiguation page, with 17 linking to articles. Many of the North Rivers listed are 40 miles long or longer. Ken Gallager 15:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
- I'm o.k. with a move to disambig and thanks for your efforts include the other rivers. I wandered in here when I was trying to figure why The Titanic reports listed the North River. I was astounded to see that the number one choice was here! Americasroof 16:14, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to know where the factual basis is for this notion that the North River runs from the Battery to Hoboken? I work on the river and, the nifty graphic with the red zone notwithstanding, I've heard the term North River used by commercial traffic as far north as Albany. North River is simply an historical name for the Hudson, and one that is still used in the vernacular of commercial marine traffic. The information here should be merged with the Hudson River article, and a redirect made with the name North River (Hudson River).
This article definitely should be merged with the Hudson River article as they are the same thing, this article is basically what should be in a history section on the Hudson page. As for the lead paragraph saying this is a name primarily used in the city of New York (and PLEASE use city of NY as New York City is not a real name, it is a colloquial local name and not the official name of the city; New York state or the state of New York is the proper way of writing New York State you do not capitalize the state part). The name North River was used all the way to Albany by the Dutch, and it was NOT the original Dutch name, the name used by the Dutch was Mauritius, North River was barely used.Camelbinky (talk) 20:03, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- Wikipedia uses the names of things that people actually use; thus, we use the term New York City, because that is the name the entire world uses in its profound ignorance, instead of the term "City of New York", which is mostly used by the government, not all the time, and even they in their profound ignorance capitalize the C:  (and the S: ). See our naming conventions for more details.
- The insistence that Wikipedia should use only the "official names" of things in its articles has never gained a great deal of traction.--Father Goose (talk) 22:13, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- See also Talk: Hudson River for an extensive additional discussion (March 8 to 17, 2009). (Centpacrr (talk) 14:40, 17 March 2009 (UTC))
- Did someone just invent this name for tihs 'river'? And can I get an answer without some Wiki 'editor' evoking rules s/he made up on the spot (ie- 'naming conventions').188.8.131.52 (talk) 23:46, 15 December 2009 (UTC)