Talk:Northern Ireland

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Former good article Northern Ireland was one of the Geography and places good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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December 16, 2005 Good article nominee Listed
September 7, 2006 Peer review Reviewed
September 19, 2007 Good article reassessment Delisted
Current status: Delisted good article
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Odd edit[edit]

Mabuska, why have you piped the soccer team? What's the point? Gob Lofa (talk) 16:56, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

The only edit that is odd and defies Wikipedia standards is your own Gob Lofa. You reverted my alterations to your subtle POV pushing, as well as my removal of tautology which you seem happy to insist enforcing on the article. It is no skin off my nose so I have made no fuss about my alterations being reverted, however I reverted your imposition of your alterations as you have no agreement for them and are simply POV pushing and slow edit-warring.
On those points, the very basis of this topic is redundant and utterly pointless and serves no purpose. Maybe discuss your own odd edit... Mabuska (talk) 11:23, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
You didn't answer my questions. What point of view do you believe I pushed? Gob Lofa (talk) 12:28, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Your job to make the case for change Gob Lofa ----Snowded TALK 12:55, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
OK. I'd like to unpipe the link to the soccer team. I can't see why it ought to be piped. Gob Lofa (talk) 13:31, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
You'd like to, Mabuska prefers the existing wording and on the face of it so do I. But I'm open to an argument to change it. ----Snowded TALK 14:31, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
I support the pipe linking. We don't need to mention Northern Ireland more than once in a sentence. The full team article title feels clunky when used in the sentence, the piped version flows better and doesn't feel like it's an easter egg link as it's obvious what it's discussing. Canterbury Tail talk 15:40, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Why describe Best as a Northern Irish footballer rather than a Northern Ireland footballer? Many Northern Irish footballers play for the Republic, so I find your wording confusing. Gob Lofa (talk) 12:43, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Redundant argument. The few not many Northern Irish footballers that play for the Republic have chosen Irish as they identity and nationality. All that is needed to state for them is that they are Irish footballers from Northern Ireland. Northern Irish clearly suggests Northern Ireland. Simple. Mabuska (talk) 19:10, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
Neither of you seems to have thought this through. Try to avoid this next time. Gob Lofa (talk) 11:57, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Actually Gob Lofa it is you who hasn't thought this through. My original edit which you reverted with your spurious "?" edit summary, a revert where you restored your edit that was objected to and duly reverted again by myself by restoring the article to the stable version before yours or my contested version. I never yapped or complained about your revert, and my original post in this topic stands as true as the day I typed it.

But seeing as we're here "discussing", clearly explain what was wrong with my original edit? Where are the exact problems? Or was it simply as always... a knee-jerk revert hoping to entice an adverse reaction? You claimed the edit was odd yet the edit smmary for it is as descriptive as you'll get for most edits on this site by many editors. Mabuska (talk) 19:05, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Why not just 'Northern Ireland', then there's no confusion? Your opposition seems unusually staunch. Gob Lofa (talk) 11:06, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
If there is confusion prove it. Your bias and POV on the issue of the term Northern Irish amongst other terms describing Northern Ireland is well known and only detracts from your arguments.
Also you have failed to respond to the question I posed... what was wrong with my edit? Nothing. Mabuska (talk) 18:19, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

IRA terror campaigns against Northern Ireland prior to 1960s[edit]

It is rather odd that these events are not to be mentioned on any summary of Northern Ireland history. The narrative simply skips over these and give no context at all to the security situation faced by the Northern Ireland state. Namely the attacks during the Irish War of Independence#North-east, Northern Campaign (Irish Republican Army) and Border Campaign (Irish Republican Army).

Apparently even mentioning these warrants a "PoV edit" by the dominant Irish Nationalist contributors here (and the bias in the narrative in any of the historical sections really shows). IrishBriton (talk) 19:11, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Very true. BushelCandle (talk) 13:39, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Very good points, and events that truly do need detailed as they threatened the security and foundations of the state. Mabuska (talk) 20:13, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Cities and towns by population[edit]

Us second class citizens can't edit everything so can some remove the Londonderry link from the subheading "Cities and towns by population" as per WP:DERRY. Can't imagine a link lasting that long for County Derry..................Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:53, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

No takers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:11, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
I've asked Canterbury Tail to sort this and I'm sure it will be done in line with guidelines ASAP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:55, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
This is the last place that incorrectly links to L'Derry. FIX IT..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:23, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
I've just corrected that. The problem with Londonderry to Derry for the city is that it's actually difficult to identify cases where it's been changed, whereas finding references to County Derry is pretty easy. It's a limitation and complication of searching unfortunately. However it's been corrected now that it's been pointed out. Canterbury Tail talk 11:21, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

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