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Notable page info[edit]

instead of an edit war, lets discuss the notability of this. Why should it not be here because it is what "dictionaries are for"? This page goes beyond the dictionary definition with the history of the term. There are lots of terms like gay, lesbian, sex that are extensive articles are again "what dictionaries are for." Maybe an expand tag would be good to add the history of it and its uses (as per the above mentioned links) but that is not grounds for removal.Lihaas (talk) 10:58, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

There are already pages about the meanings of this word. The history of the term is part of a dictionary definition. As long as it just talks about the word, that is dictionary material. The entry for Sex says almost nothing about the word, it is all about the concept denoted by the word. See Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary Zodon (talk) 04:18, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
See below, but i mean the word and its connotations, not the dictionary definition.Lihaas (talk) 23:47, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Page expansion[edit]

In order to make the page more warranted perhaps we can expand this to include the term "Lolita" (as derive from the book, not just the wikipedia redirect but broader use since Nabokov's coinage); and also "nymphet" (from the same source). There are differences between the terms per se, but the imply largely similiar connotations of "sexual attractiveness" for young girls.

The page will be more than a stub without reason for deletion too (and hence edit wars)Lihaas (talk) 11:39, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Better yet, simply merge and (redirect) Nubile and Nymphet with Lolita (talk) 01:28, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
At this point there isn't much sense in expanding this page, since the more general pages on this topic are still so skeletal. Suggest start by expanding sexual attraction to cover sexual attractiveness of women. Once that has grown enough, split it off into a separate article, which could be here or at Sexually attractive women, etc.
(i.e. stop focusing on the word and focus on the meaning). I assume in the above, you mean Lolita (term), rather than the other articles. Zodon (talk) 05:22, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Yes, thats what i mean. more than the term and the connotation, etc. As in most articles about a "word"
I do think, with nubile being the more historical term, should be the sourced page for expansion as Lolita is a neologism (and in a sense a derivative of this definition), while nymphet is from the latter. Nubile would also be the stand-alone term, rather than dependent on disambiguations and less encyclopaedic terms such as WP:Neologisms. Lihaas (talk) 23:47, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
The word means originally "ready" - or "having come of age" - that is what "marriageable" connates. Lately it has come to mean "sexually attractive." In its original sense it is more akin to débutante. Totorotroll (talk) 12:08, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
been nearly a year without opposition so i merged the twoLihaas (talk) 05:36, 20 June 2011 (UTC)