Talk:Officer cadet

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Agree They are both essentially the same thing - nomenclature and other minor differences apart. It also appears that Officer Candidate is a US term only which could quite easily be accomodated in the Officer Cadet article. Clarity would seem to demand one concise and clear article, rather than have hundreds of other articles concerning the specifics of a particular nations armed forces.--jrleighton 05:24, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't bother - I think they are quite different, and it is easier to understand the two concepts if they are separate.

Yes, I think they should be kept seperate

No, these pages should be seperate - Officer Candidates (OCs) are a serperate entity in the US Navy structure and should not be merged. OCs are in the STA-21 commissioning program and are the title assigned to participants in Officer Candidates School, Midshipmen are either from the US Naval Academy or in the Navy ROTC Program.

OPPOSE: Officer Candidate is a separate rank and title from Officer Cadet. There is a very notable difference, espeically in the U.S. military. -Husnock 20:58, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

The US military is not the only armed service in the world to use the designation OC. To merge these terms simply because they are equivilent in US parlence without due regard for other countries' usage is unwise. In the UK for example, the term Officer Candidate is used to describe persons who are in the application phase of selection to undergo training at their respective positions. They have not been accepted at this stage, nor have they any form of commission. They are often referred to as POCs (Potential)OCs. In contrast OC Bloggs RN/RAF is a term used to describe a military person in their first stage of training and is a non-substantive rank which exists above their actual commissioned rank. There are other equivilent examples in other militaries. Stuart Harland 10:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

OTHER Technically the rank of "Cadet" only applies to cadets at one of the four service academies as defined by USC Title 10 Subtitle A Part II Chapter 47 Subchapter I. Sec. 801. Article 1. Definitions (6) The term cadet means a cadet of the United States Military Academy, the United States Air Force Academy, or the United States Coast Guard Academy. (7) The term midshipman means a midshipman of the United States Naval Academy and any other midshipman on active duty in the naval service.

As a note: a cadet is a legitimate rank in the army national guard and reserves if they are in the Simultaneous Membership Program. They are an E-5 or E-6 that is enrolled in ROTC and one of the aforementioned branches. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:03, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

UK No1. Uniform[edit]

Can someone point out where or when this "Rainbow stripe" was added to the Number 1 uniform as I passed through BRNC last year, and did not have any such marking on any of my uniforms. If this is a recent addition then so be it, but if it is something from earlier on then please ammend it as such.

Marine Corps Midshipmen[edit]

i have deleted this reference. there are no midshipmen in the usmc. midshipmen may receive a marine corps commission upon graduation; while midshipmen, they are in the NAVY! marine corps officer candidates are called officer candidates, or, colloquially, TURDS, (trainee under recruit discipline).of course, MARINE is also an acronym: muscles are required,intelligence not essential.Toyokuni3 (talk) 04:39, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Merger Proposal[edit]

Subordinate Officer only contains information about Canada, and most of the information is duplicated from the entry on this page. The information could be put in a section called Subordinate officer, or simply merged into the Canada section.Kirk (talk) 18:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Graphics of the insignias[edit]

This article is too wordy for a page with such contents. It would be more appropriate to have pictures of the rank insignias than to just describe them with words. Shovonma17 (talk) 04:09, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Staff Cadet not an official rank?[edit]

Staff Cadet (RMC-Duntroon, Australia Officer Cadet equivalent) is the rank that appears on military identification, pay slips, paperwork and computer systems for all members of the Corps of Staff Cadets at RMC. Can someone confirm that SCDT isn't a real rank? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:00, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress[edit]

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Able Seaman (rank) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RM bot 23:50, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Saluting Canadian OCdt/NCdts[edit]

The CF Manual of Drill and Ceremonial does not include OCdts/NCdts in the list of personnel entitled to salutes (unless they are the deceased in a military funeral). Also, they are not entitled to courtesy salutes as defined in the drill manual. If COs or RSMs are directing that they be saluted, they are doing so without authorization. I am deleting that sentence in the article. CU L8R AV8R ... J-P (talk) 13:54, 24 September 2011 (UTC) In the chart for pre-1968 for RCAF Ranks, the designation Officer Cadet should be changed to Flight Cadet, as that was the designation from shortly after then end of WW2 up to unification (1968) During WW2, the term used was Provisional Officer. (Reference "CAP 6 - Dress Regulations for the RCAF" - Versions 1 (1925), 2 (1939), 3 (1944), 4 (1953) and 5 (1958). Chatham Fred (talk) 21:53, 17 December 2011 (UTC)