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Variant named Pasanya, Pasagna, Pasaña, Pysanya, Pasanja, Piss-On-Ya[edit]

A friend of mine vaguely recalls playing what amounts to an Oh Hell variant that goes by one of the names in the title or something similar with elderly relatives decades ago: 52 cards, 4 players, everyone for themselves, diminishing hand size 13-1, spades is always trump, the "Basic" scoring as shown in the article (1 point per trick plus 10 for matching your bid), screw the dealer on bidding. Does anyone recognize the name based on the above attempts to recreate it phonetically? Also, what are the "correct" rules? (Of course, it's our deck of cards, so we can play however we darn well please. I just want to see if anyone recognizes this variant/game.) Ryanker 17:29 23 August 2014 (UTC)

This is known in Hungary as rikiki or ri-ki-ki with a slight variation, can someone add this?[edit]

The variation is that all players bid at the same time the dealer counts to 3 or says ri - ki - ki and everybody shows their bids with their fingers. BTW rikiki does not mean anything in Hungarian. Don't know the origin of the name or command. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:11, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Easy Random Chance?[edit]

What is the meaning of Easy Random Chance in the info box? -- (talk) 04:50, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

No title[edit]

We have played this game for years as "Mormon Bridge". I am adding that name to the list of alternates and linking to this article from that name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

number of hands[edit]

As played at LASFS, a four-player game goes 3, ..., 12, NT, NT, NT, NT, 12, ..., 3 — each player deals a no-trump hand in the middle of the game, and the 1- and 2-card hands are not played because they're too chaotic to be interesting. (Exception: a five-player game includes the 2-card hands, so that the same player does not suffer the first and last "dealer disadvantage".) —Tamfang 22:27, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Also, at LASFS, a five-handed game has a hand of 10 with trump, five hands of 10 cards in no-trump (with two cards out of play) then back to trump.JDZeff (talk) 06:56, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Steven Spielberg is a player. Hm, did he learn it from a LASFS member? —Tamfang (talk) 08:38, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Extra-profane names[edit]

Does this game really go by the name of "Oh Cunt"? It seems unlikely to be a widely used name because (1) "cunt" is such a strongly taboo word in most circles and (2) it's not used much as a general expletive. A bit of googling failed to turn up any sign of the game being known by this name, other than in copies of this article. I am skeptical. The edit that introduced the "Oh Cunt" name also introduced "Oh Fuck" and "Fuck your Neighbour", both of which are more plausible but neither of which, if really a name for this game, has left any trace I could find with Google. I suspect that either (on 2005-11-14) was, er, playing games, or else s/he has run across a small group of determined and eccentric antibowdlerizers and taken their nomenclature a bit too seriously. (For what it's worth, most edits from seem respectable.) Anyone got any evidence that the game is ever actually called "Oh Fuck", "Oh Cunt" or "Fuck your Neighbour"? If not, I propose to remove at least OC and FYN. (Maybe not OF, just because a game whose most usual name is "Oh Hell" must quite often be antibowdlerized and "oh fuck" is such a common expletive, so I bet it gets called that sometimes.) Gareth McCaughan 00:45, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I've removed all three; if anyone has evidence for any of them, I suggest putting it here as well as reinstating the name(s) in question. Gareth McCaughan 02:37, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

In my family we learned the game as "Estimation" and there was an extra round, "Half Blind". I've added both to the article. 19:12, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
When I played the game at University of Manitoba in the 1960's we called it either Fuck Your Buddy or Screw Your Neighbour, making that "Fuck your Neighbour" name seem plausible as well. BTW, why is user Cashewbrick undoing perfectly sensible edits in the name of counter-vandalism? Eugenwpg (talk) 05:31, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
We call it "oh bugger". —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:16, 19 February 2010 (UTC)


I have always played this game with 8 cards (down the river, up the river), not the 7 that is mentioned in this write-up. I suppose the only difference is that you can play with up to 6 players instead of 7. Also, I've only ever played by scoring method "#2." Nonetheless, great game! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:54, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

What is missing here are some of the main joys of the game - the name comes from the very unpredicatibility, which makes bidding very difficult and can frustrate to the amusement of all. 1. the game is good for 3,4,5 players. 2. it's good for mixed ability or family groups: the inability of weak players to predict their bids accurately makes it hard for experienced AND inexperienced players alike. 3. Play varies from trick-winning to trick-losing strategies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:21, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
What do you mean by "with 8 cards, not the 7"? Is an eight-card hand the biggest, the smallest, or what? —Tamfang (talk) 08:41, 19 January 2018 (UTC)