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Plurality voting[edit]

In "Law and Government", text says state officials are elected by plurality voting. That's wrong, right? Oklahoma's one of the few states where a candidate only wins with a majority vote, acquired in a runoff election if necessary. Lobosolo (talk) 06:25, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

We do elect our officials by plurality voting in the General election as was the case in the 2002, its only in the primary's that we have runoffs.--Dcheagle | Join the Fight! 08:50, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

OK. Well, that could be clearer, right? I don't feel qualified to revise, but Oklahoma's relative uniqueness in the primary runoff requirement sort of belies this blanket statement about plurality voting. Lobosolo (talk) 09:45, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to be rewriting the statement to better explain our system of voting.--Dcheagle | Join the Fight! 20:15, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Presidential Election of 2008[edit]

"Oklahoma was the only state whose counties voted unanimously for McCain." This is true only because Alaska's primary subdivisions are called boroughs. McCain carried all the boroughs. Dynzmoar (talk) 11:19, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Please stop editing back and forth on whether Oklahoma was the only pure red state in 2008. If there is a dispute, which there clearly is, we discuss in on the Talk Page not but edit comments as we edit back and forth. Here are two map sources I found. [1][2]. ─ Matthewi (Talk) • 00:06, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Part of the issue here is how you handle Alaska's Unorganized Borough. Not all of Alaska is part of a borough; the emptier parts of the state are administered directly by the state government and are not part of a borough. To facilitate census taking, the Census Bureau splits the borough up into "Census areas"; Obama won some of these. So whether Oklahoma was the only state to go all McCain in 2008 depends on whether you treat the unorganized borough as equivalent to a borough or use the census areas. —Scott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 00:19, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
We just need to discuss in on this page or another Talk Page to see how I handle it. I don't know much about it though. ─ Matthewi (Talk) • 01:20, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

What about the Indians?[edit]

Considering that much of the state is divided into Indian Reservations, I am curious why there is so little mention of that. It would be nice to see how that interplays with state jurisdiction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.15.137.90 (talk) 00:43, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

There exists exactly one Indian reservation in Oklahoma, Osage Indian Reservation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.234.182.75 (talk) 01:10, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Exactly. Apart from Osage County, there are not actually reservations in Oklahoma. There are tribal governments that operate in certain defined areas (e.g. Chickasaw, Cherokee, et al.) but in order to fall under their jurisdiction you either have to be a member of the tribe or otherwise consent to their jurisdiction (i.e. by being employed by them or dealing with their businesses). Otherwise Oklahoma law applies. Ultimately though it is not something that directly affects most residents of Oklahoma on a frequent basis (unless you're the sort of person who goes to the casino every day), which is why I assume it's been left out. —Scott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 14:36, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Actually, the Osage Nation doesn't even have a reservation. The Tenth Circuit ruled very clearly in Osage Nation v. Irby, 597 F.3d 1117 (10th Cir. 2010), cert denied, that the Osage Allotment Act of 1906 ended their reservation status (despite the tribe's retention of the infamous Osage mineral estate). There are no "reservations" in Oklahoma. 68.12.156.16 (talk)

Oklahoma does not have reservations. We have nations. There is a major difference. Kryan74 (talk) 15:42, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Dead Links[edit]

This article contains so many dead links. Which might be a problem when proving it's verifiability. Someone definitely need to do a ref-improve or if it gets re-assessed it might loose featured article state. I'm eager to help if someone need a hand--Chamith (talk) 13:07, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Some Edits[edit]

1. Oklahoma does not lie "fully" in the southwest. The western United States begins west of the 100th Meridian West . The notion that Oklahoma is part of the great southwest is based on a lack of geographical knowledge. Oklahoma proper is located in the south central United States and is part of the Eastern half of the United States.

2. Oklahoma, or most of it is not situated in the temperate zone of the united states. It is located in the Humid Subtropical Climate zone. There are maps on both pages that outline this.

3. The author has given the impression that all American Indians in Oklahoma evenly sided with the Union and Confederacy. The plains Indians of western Oklahoma are not directly connected to the Civil War. All Five Civilized Tribes sided with the Confederacy; with the exception of a band of Cherokees that broke off and sided with the Union.

4. The author left out the Cross Timbers region. In reality, a very small portion of Oklahoma is situated in the Great Plains. The web is inundated with lazy and false versions of the great plains map. Basically maps that cover the entire state and the media picks up on them. I can assure readers that most of eastern Oklahoma is not part of the plains region. This is the actual map of the great plains and it can be verified by looking at Google Earth.

4. What are "western" ranchers? How is this a cultural influence? Many of these ranchers came straight from the old south like most of Oklahoma's population.

5. "Residents of Oklahoma are associated with traits of southern hospitality – the 2006 Catalogue for Philanthropy (with data from 2004) ranks Oklahomans 7th in the nation for overall generosity[135]. The state has also been associated with a negative cultural stereotype first popularized by John Steinbeck's novel The Grapes of Wrath, which described the plight of uneducated, poverty-stricken Dust Bowl-era farmers deemed "Okies"


That is how that sentence should read. The Grapes of Wrath misconception does not cancel out the southern hospitality aspect. It was a fictional book. There is no reason for "While". I simply broke this up in to two sentences. Why is southern hospitality a "stereotypical" trait? It is an attribute. Kryan74 (talk) 15:41, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

I have to question your claim that Oklahoma is located in the Eastern United States. According to whom? On what grounds are you making this claim? The 100th meridian west clearly is a significant distance west of the actual center longitude of the United States. I have never seen Oklahoma classified as being in the East; it is clearly divided. Dustin (talk) 15:49, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
On #4, maybe Wikipedia is using an overly broad definition that can be changed, but you are using an overly narrow definition so aren't really doing this page justice. Also, you can't give any better a delineation of a plain by looking at Google Earth than you can a desert. Dustin (talk) 15:57, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Regarding #4. That is the actual map of the plains. That comes from multiple geographical studies and can be verified by looking at overhead maps. Central Oklahoma is the situated in the Cross Timbers region and eastern Oklahoma is part of the eastern woodlands. Kryan74 (talk) 16:04, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

External links modified[edit]

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