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Can anyone deal with...[edit]

"As the oldest living person is usually a woman, a sequence of oldest women would be nearly redundant to this list."

I would like to know if anyone can add special cells for the table when the sequence diverges. Any opinions?? Georgia guy (talk) 13:45, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

A special note is that the difference between the 2 lists can come in 2 flavors. Both start out as "If this list has X, Y, and Z, where X and Z are women and Y is a man". It can be either:
  1. The alternate sequence goes directly from X to Z.
  2. The alternate sequence goes from X to W to Z, where W is a woman not in the all people list but who would qualify if this were a women-specific list.

Georgia guy (talk) 14:21, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

A man doesn't need to be GRG verified to be listed here, does he?[edit]

Someone is removing all the men that aren't GRG verified from the list. I'd say that a man doesn't need to be GRG verified to be included here. The list of oldest living people contains plenty of people that aren't GRG verified. RightGot (talk) 21:58, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

A difficult area (i.e. differentiating between WP:V and GRG "verified"). Consensus is that no differentiation be made. Repeated reverts to a GRG-only list has seen more than one editor topic-banned. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 04:14, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
Huh? In the Malaysia section above you wrote that ""Verified" in this case means that the claim has been verified by an independent body which focuses on longevity research. In effect this means the Gerontology Research Group or Guinness World Records. For the purposes of this article passing WP:RS is insufficient, as it would mean that not only Longevity claims but Longevity myths would be included in the same list, which would be encyclopedically pointless." This article's lede also specifically mentions just GRG and GWR for validating age claims. If any local newspaper report was accepted as a source here, all tables in this article would become cluttered with such unverified claims... --Roentgenium111 (talk) 14:09, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
That's why I said "it is difficult"! The lead paragraph needs updating. The oldest ever/living people/men list here are the top ten of their respective articles. The oldest people/men articles are largely from the GRG lists including all of the current top ten in both cases. There are some editors who are so against using GRG as the main source that they have advocated that the list be based strictly of WP:V. This would make it encyclopedically pointless as it would include not only Longevity claims, but Longevity myths as well. The living list on the other hand include persons who pass WP:V as long as they are under the oldest person/man as recognized by Guinness. Again some editors want this restriction waived, but that would again make the list pointless. There is no justification for making the lists here differ from the parent lists and as long as the current criteria are in place then the lists here stay the same. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 05:29, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Yisrael Kristal has passed away[edit]

Reported in the news in Israel this afternoon. Atbannett (talk) 15:11, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Francisco Nunez Olivera[edit]

Did you know that Francisco Nunez Olivera is the oldest man in the world? I know that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:401:C503:63C6:9D93:B272:B051:5B07 (talk) 01:50, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Have you got a citation to verify that? DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 05:10, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Tsunahei Ogawa[edit]

Tsunahei Ogawa (born 9 January 1907) is confirmed alive as of today, which means that he would fit in the Top 10 oldest living men list (8th place). (talk) 17:02, 8 September 2017 (UTC)